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<div>== No questions about the archive please ==<br />
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Please, only write to me if you are volunteering to help, or if you have information about the contents or new location of a homestead. If you send me questions about the archive, they will be ignored. I don't know any more than what you can find in this wiki.<br />
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== About Jim ==<br />
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I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
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Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at GeoCities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
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Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
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I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
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== My interest in the GeoCities heritage ==<br />
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My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at GeoCities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including GeoCities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the GeoCities heritage to live on.<br />
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== Some things I'd like to see (Help wanted) ==<br />
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Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
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There are some things I'd like to see happen for the GeoCities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
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- Archiving pages that link to GeoCities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
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- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
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- Web pages about the GeoCities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
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- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at GeoCities, and where they are now.<br />
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- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at GeoCities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of GeoCities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of information about GeoCities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
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- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
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- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize GeoCities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
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I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to GeoCities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her GeoCities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
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If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to GeoCities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
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Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to GeoCities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
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I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
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== Archiving Web pages that link to GeoCities homesteads ==<br />
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I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to GeoCities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
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That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
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== The watermark ==<br />
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I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of GeoCities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]<br />
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== Not gone! ==<br />
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[http://www.geocities.com/soho/1469/flw.html All-Wright Site]<br />
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[http://www.geocities.com/stonehedgefarms/ Jennifer's Stonehedge Farms]<br />
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Oops! I forgot about GeoCities Plus.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities&diff=1350GeoCities2010-01-05T10:07:20Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Help Wanted */</p>
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<div>__NOTOC__<br />
[[Image:Geocities.gif|left]] '''GeoCities''' was a once very popular web hosting service founded in 1994 and purchased by [[Yahoo]] in 1999. Marked by its once-generous allotment of 15 megabytes and the free (with added advertisements) price, it was at one point the 3rd most-browsed site on the World Wide Web.<br />
<br />
Because the site was free and marketed primarily to first-time or relatively new internet users, the quality of websites on GeoCities became a persistent, oft-referred joke - the amateurish layout, use of animated gifs, and prone-to-personal websites dominated the standard GeoCities pages, and were often abandoned by their owners for good soon after finding better approaches to telling their stories or showing off their data.<br />
<br />
In April 2009, [http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html Yahoo announced they would be closing GeoCities "later this year"]. In July of 2009, Yahoo announced the firm date of ''October 26, 2009'' for the closing of GeoCities, and offered a number of hosting plans (for pay) to transfer data from GeoCities to these new locations.<br />
<br />
While the natural urge by some would be to let GeoCities sink into obscurity and death, leaving nothing in its wake but bad memories and shudders of recognition at endless "under construction" GIFs, the fact remains that GeoCities was for millions of people the first experience dealing with the low-cost, full-color, world-accessible website and all the possibilities this contained. To not at least have the option of browsing these old sites would be a loss of the very history of the web from the side of the people who came to know it, not the designers who descended upon it. For that reason, Archive Team thinks GeoCities is worth saving.<br />
<br />
== The [[GeoCities_Project|GeoCities Project]] and Friends ==<br />
<br />
Upon the announcement of the closing of GeoCities, an attempt was made to rescue as much data from GeoCities' destruction as possible. The page with details about the project is [[GeoCities_Project|here]]. The project's harvesting phase was from April-October 2009, and involved several dozen people and hundreds of machine instances. To various degrees of quality, a very large amount of GeoCities information was mirrored.<br />
<br />
There have been other parallel projects also mirroring GeoCities besides Archive Team. These include [http://www.archive.org Archive.Org], [http://www.reocities.com Reocities], [http://www.geocities.ws geocities.ws], and [http://www.internetarchaeology.org/ Internet Archaeology]. All groups appear to have gotten different amounts of the GeoCities collection, and most are now sharing data to track down gaps and share copies.<br />
<br />
== The Closure ==<br />
<br />
GeoCities closed in reality at around 12:30pm Pacific Standard Time on October 27, 2009. Attempts to reach most previous URLs either redirect to a page telling you GeoCities is closed, or bounce to a Yahoo search page and suggest you check Archive.Org's collection of saved GeoCities pages. Archive Team found some pages lingering days afterwards, likely a reflection of the size of GeoCities machinery and complexity of a decade of system administrations and hacks.<br />
<br />
== Under Construction ==<br />
<br />
To demonstrate some of the things being lost, Jason Scott created an exhibit called [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction This Page Is Under Construction], a collection of hundreds of "Under Construction" GIFs from the downloaded data of GeoCities. Nearly a quarter of a million people have been subjected to this display, but only a few thousand are brave enough to take on the sequel, [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail Please Mail Me].<br />
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== Press Mentions of the GeoCities Closure and the GeoCities Archive Project ==<br />
<br />
=== Articles about GeoCities Closing ===<br />
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* [http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Ars Technica]: Started in 1994, GeoCities was like the Facebook to Angelfire's MySpace—competing webpage services that '''allowed over-enthused HTML newbies to create artfully horrific webpages to represent themselves in the early days of the Internet'''.<br />
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* [http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2009/04/24/razing-yahoos-geocities.aspx fool.com]: As anyone who has surfed through GeoCities over the years will tell you, an '''Internet without GeoCities is like a world of celluloid without Keanu Reeves flicks'''. The absence of GeoCities won't create a cultural void. Few will miss its passing. It's loaded mostly with hobbyist tribute pages, authored by penny-pinching cybersurfers who put up with primitive tools and gaudy ads in exchange for free hosting. Many of the pages were created years ago, and abandoned like bunny rabbits after Easter Sunday, Ugg boots after winter, and anything Reeves did after the first Matrix movie.<br />
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* [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ TechCrunch]: One of the pioneers of web-hosting sites, GeoCities gave users personal publishing tools and created “neighborhoods” within its web platform for users to be able to create pages, add a picture, text, a guest book and a website counter. '''Long before MySpace, GeoCities was known as a place where teenagers, college students, and eventually others could impose their own garish taste upon the rest of the world.'''<br />
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* [http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html PC World]: Of the 12 remaining GeoCities users, only one was available for comment. "Holy crap!" said the user, a red-faced fellow named Strong Bad. "'''The scroll buttons and animated GIFs on that site were unbeatable.'''"<br />
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* [http://thehoot.net/articles/6813 The Brandeis Hoot]: Geocities: the end of an Internet era, by Alex Schneider<br />
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=== Articles and Mentions of Archive Team's GeoCities Project ===<br />
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* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/28/geocities_preservation/ The Register]: A group of web preservationists called the Archive Team is trying to save most of Geocities for the ages before Yahoo! erases the beloved old-school web-hosting service from the face of the internet.<br />
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* [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 Slashdot]: jamie found this note from Jason Scott, who organizes the Archive Team. They are busy downloading as much of Geocities as they can before it vanishes from the Net after Yahoo pulled the plug.<br />
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* [http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8fn2u/bring_bandwidth_and_disks_help_me_save_geocities/ reddit.com]<br />
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* Jason Scott appeared on the April 29, 2009 edition of [http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2009/04/rescuing-geocit.html Future Tense] to discuss why GeoCities should be rescued.<br />
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* [http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2009/10/26/geocities-archive-tributes/ The Coffee Desk]<br />
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* [http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=15228 We Built These Cities] by Brianna Snyder, Fairfield Weekly, week of October 29, 2009.<br />
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* [http://www.osnews.com/story/22400/GeoCities_Decommissioning_Unleashes_Torrent_of_Nostalgia GeoCities Decommissioning Unleashes Torrent of Nostalgia] by David Adams on October 27, 2009.<br />
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== Help Wanted ==<br />
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I'm looking for people to help with some GeoCities heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. Please, only write if you are volunteering to help, or if you have ''information'' about the contents or new location of a homestead. If you send me questions about the archive, they will be ignored. I don't know any more than what you can find in this wiki. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Archiveteam:Current_events&diff=1316Archiveteam:Current events2009-12-07T13:16:03Z<p>Jimhabegger: Removed my stupid joke</p>
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<div>*'''May 1st:''' We got [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 slashdotted!] This has roughly doubled the number of people in the [[IRC_Channel]], which you should totally join. There is now a [[GeoCities_FAQ|FAQ]] up about the [[GeoCities|GeoCities project.]]<br />
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*'''April 28th:''' [[GeoCities]] is dying!</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities&diff=1315GeoCities2009-12-07T08:36:52Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in "GeoCities" in internal links</p>
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<div>__NOTOC__<br />
[[Image:Geocities.gif|left]] '''GeoCities''' was a once very popular web hosting service founded in 1994 and purchased by [[Yahoo]] in 1999. Marked by its once-generous allotment of 15 megabytes and the free (with added advertisements) price, it was at one point the 3rd most-browsed site on the World Wide Web.<br />
<br />
Because the site was free and marketed primarily to first-time or relatively new internet users, the quality of websites on GeoCities became a persistent, oft-referred joke - the amateurish layout, use of animated gifs, and prone-to-personal websites dominated the standard GeoCities pages, and were often abandoned by their owners for good soon after finding better approaches to telling their stories or showing off their data.<br />
<br />
In April 2009, [http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html Yahoo announced they would be closing GeoCities "later this year"]. In July of 2009, Yahoo announced the firm date of ''October 26, 2009'' for the closing of GeoCities, and offered a number of hosting plans (for pay) to transfer data from GeoCities to these new locations.<br />
<br />
While the natural urge by some would be to let GeoCities sink into obscurity and death, leaving nothing in its wake but bad memories and shudders of recognition at endless "under construction" GIFs, the fact remains that GeoCities was for millions of people the first experience dealing with the low-cost, full-color, world-accessible website and all the possibilities this contained. To not at least have the option of browsing these old sites would be a loss of the very history of the web from the side of the people who came to know it, not the designers who descended upon it. For that reason, Archive Team thinks GeoCities is worth saving.<br />
<br />
== The [[GeoCities_Project|GeoCities Project]] and Friends ==<br />
<br />
Upon the announcement of the closing of GeoCities, an attempt was made to rescue as much data from GeoCities' destruction as possible. The page with details about the project is [[GeoCities_Project|here]]. The project's harvesting phase was from April-October 2009, and involved several dozen people and hundreds of machine instances. To various degrees of quality, a very large amount of GeoCities information was mirrored.<br />
<br />
There have been other parallel projects also mirroring GeoCities besides Archive Team. These include [http://www.archive.org Archive.Org], [http://www.reocities.com Reocities], [http://www.geocities.ws geocities.ws], and [http://www.internetarchaeology.org/ Internet Archaeology]. All groups appear to have gotten different amounts of the GeoCities collection, and most are now sharing data to track down gaps and share copies.<br />
<br />
== The Closure ==<br />
<br />
GeoCities closed in reality at around 12:30pm Pacific Standard Time on October 27, 2009. Attempts to reach most previous URLs either redirect to a page telling you GeoCities is closed, or bounce to a Yahoo search page and suggest you check Archive.Org's collection of saved GeoCities pages. Archive Team found some pages lingering days afterwards, likely a reflection of the size of GeoCities machinery and complexity of a decade of system administrations and hacks.<br />
<br />
== Under Construction ==<br />
<br />
To demonstrate some of the things being lost, Jason Scott created an exhibit called [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction This Page Is Under Construction], a collection of hundreds of "Under Construction" GIFs from the downloaded data of GeoCities. Nearly a quarter of a million people have been subjected to this display, but only a few thousand are brave enough to take on the sequel, [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail Please Mail Me].<br />
<br />
== Press Mentions of the GeoCities Closure and the GeoCities Archive Project ==<br />
<br />
=== Articles about GeoCities Closing ===<br />
<br />
* [http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Ars Technica]: Started in 1994, GeoCities was like the Facebook to Angelfire's MySpace—competing webpage services that '''allowed over-enthused HTML newbies to create artfully horrific webpages to represent themselves in the early days of the Internet'''.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2009/04/24/razing-yahoos-geocities.aspx fool.com]: As anyone who has surfed through GeoCities over the years will tell you, an '''Internet without GeoCities is like a world of celluloid without Keanu Reeves flicks'''. The absence of GeoCities won't create a cultural void. Few will miss its passing. It's loaded mostly with hobbyist tribute pages, authored by penny-pinching cybersurfers who put up with primitive tools and gaudy ads in exchange for free hosting. Many of the pages were created years ago, and abandoned like bunny rabbits after Easter Sunday, Ugg boots after winter, and anything Reeves did after the first Matrix movie.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ TechCrunch]: One of the pioneers of web-hosting sites, GeoCities gave users personal publishing tools and created “neighborhoods” within its web platform for users to be able to create pages, add a picture, text, a guest book and a website counter. '''Long before MySpace, GeoCities was known as a place where teenagers, college students, and eventually others could impose their own garish taste upon the rest of the world.'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html PC World]: Of the 12 remaining GeoCities users, only one was available for comment. "Holy crap!" said the user, a red-faced fellow named Strong Bad. "'''The scroll buttons and animated GIFs on that site were unbeatable.'''"<br />
<br />
* [http://thehoot.net/articles/6813 The Brandeis Hoot]: Geocities: the end of an Internet era, by Alex Schneider<br />
<br />
=== Articles and Mentions of Archive Team's GeoCities Project ===<br />
<br />
* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/28/geocities_preservation/ The Register]: A group of web preservationists called the Archive Team is trying to save most of Geocities for the ages before Yahoo! erases the beloved old-school web-hosting service from the face of the internet.<br />
<br />
* [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 Slashdot]: jamie found this note from Jason Scott, who organizes the Archive Team. They are busy downloading as much of Geocities as they can before it vanishes from the Net after Yahoo pulled the plug.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8fn2u/bring_bandwidth_and_disks_help_me_save_geocities/ reddit.com]<br />
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* Jason Scott appeared on the April 29, 2009 edition of [http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2009/04/rescuing-geocit.html Future Tense] to discuss why GeoCities should be rescued.<br />
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* [http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2009/10/26/geocities-archive-tributes/ The Coffee Desk]<br />
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* [http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=15228 We Built These Cities] by Brianna Snyder, Fairfield Weekly, week of October 29, 2009.<br />
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* [http://www.osnews.com/story/22400/GeoCities_Decommissioning_Unleashes_Torrent_of_Nostalgia GeoCities Decommissioning Unleashes Torrent of Nostalgia] by David Adams on October 27, 2009.<br />
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== Help Wanted ==<br />
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I'm looking for people to help with some GeoCities heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:Geocities_Project&diff=1314Talk:Geocities Project2009-12-07T08:33:15Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Talk:Geocities Project to Talk:GeoCities Project:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:GeoCities Project]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities_Project&diff=1313Talk:GeoCities Project2009-12-07T08:33:15Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Talk:Geocities Project to Talk:GeoCities Project:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>hi. could you guys please archive the following page? thanks!! <br />
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http://www.geocities.com/sm890.geo/ --[[User:Sm5555|Sm5555]] 18:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Geocities_Project&diff=1312Geocities Project2009-12-07T08:33:15Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities Project to GeoCities Project:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[GeoCities Project]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities_Project&diff=1311GeoCities Project2009-12-07T08:33:15Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities Project to GeoCities Project:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>__NOTOC__<br />
Upon the news of the closing of GeoCities by Yahoo, Archive Team initiated the '''GeoCities Project''', a coordinated effort to rescue as much of GeoCities' data as possible off the to-be-decomissioned GeoCities servers. This project was begun in April of 2009, and continued throughout the summer of 2009 up to the closing date of October 26, 2009 by Yahoo. A list of Frequently Asked Questions about this project was generated and is available [[GeoCities_FAQ|Here]].<br />
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Parallel to our efforts (and in conjunction with them) archive.org began a major "deep crawl" of GeoCities to add to their wayback machine. The page for their project is [http://www.archive.org/web/geocities.php here]. Please note that Archive Team and archive.org are 100% separate entities, with different approaches to the project of saving data and history.<br />
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''It can not be stressed enough how many people were involved with this project - some preferred to be behind the scenes, while Jason Scott continued his habit of being a complete media hog, getting a lot of the interviews and face time with people asking what was up. But there were dozens of people involved, and they supplied weeks of time and effort to find efficient ways to download all of this data before it was removed.''<br />
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== Technical Details About GeoCities ==<br />
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These are now-defunct facts about GeoCities, culled from various sources, intended to provide some technical context for the arrangement of GeoCities that were discovered during the harvesting phase of data. <br />
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=== GeoCities Neighborhoods ===<br />
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Before the acquisition by Yahoo, GeoCities used an unusual organization method for its userbase: Neighborhoods. Separating the subject matter of the pages by taste, neighborhoods with names like Area51 (Science Fiction and Fantasy), Nashville (Country Music), Augusta (Golf) and others allowed for an easier time of finding subject matter the browser was searching for. ''It helps to give context that search engines as the modern world knows them did not exist in such force.'' <br />
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A neighborhood would have up to 9,999 accounts underneath them, with the numbers representing the user's "block". Over time, GeoCities added "Suburbs", which allowed an expansion past 9,999 users; these would have names like "Vault" and "Cavern" under the "Area51" neighborhood. A URL would then be available in the form of '''www.geocities.com/NEIGHBORHOOD/SUBURB/XXXX'''.<br />
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[http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Geocities Homestead Neighborhoods and Suburbs], although having not been updated since 2007, gives an excellent overview of the GeoCities history of Neighborhood organization. <br />
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=== The Various Names and Incarnations of GeoCities ===<br />
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Originally called '''Beverly Hills Internet''', the company opened up free web hosting in 1995 after a beta period. [http://scout.wisc.edu/Projects/PastProjects/NH/95-07/95-07-10/0031.html] It renamed itself to '''Geopages''', and then '''GeoCities'''. After its acquisition by Yahoo, its name was changed to '''Yahoo GeoCities''', which is what it remained until its demise.<br />
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=== The Size and Amount of GeoCities Accounts ===<br />
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GeoCities would provide a limited amount of space for its users to build websites, although this amount grew over time. While the most famous is about fifteen megabytes per site, the number was actually much more variant and changed through different amounts over its lifetime. This is an attempt to find citations of the size from various sources; it is clear from the various points of reference that different people got different deals through GeoCities over the years, especially with regard to paid versus free hosting. <br />
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This small size explains the usual look and feel of GeoCities accounts, as users were naturally restricted in what items they could have on their pages, and would lean towards simple graphics or utilizing hotlinsk to build their look.<br />
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* 1997: 2mb Limit for GeoCities. [http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1997/02/msg00135.html]<br />
* April 29, 1997: GeoCities welcomes its 500,000th "Homesteader" and increases the limit to 11mb. [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-19356230.html]<br />
* 1998: 15mb limit for small business service [http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/1998/03/11031]<br />
* 1999: GeoCities has 12 terabytes of storage. [http://www.detritus.org/mike/gc/]<br />
* 2001: 15mb for GeoCities, 25mb for $8.95 a month [http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001/10/29/free-web-pages.htm]<br />
* 2002: 15mb Limit for GeoCities.<br />
* 2002: 25mb for the newly introduced "GeoCities Plus"<br />
* 2003: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of June)<br />
* 2005: 75mb for GeoCities Plus (As of January)<br />
* 2005: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of April)<br />
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Yahoo's Site Explorer showed 23M html pages in Yahoo's index as of April 29th, 2009.<br />
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=== Tips n' Tricks ===<br />
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* Although simple directory listings aren't accessible for users' accounts, you might be able to obtain Apache-style directory listing for their subdirectories. For example, by stripping off the page filename for [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html], we can obtain an index for the subdirectory [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/ http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/]; the benefit of this is that there may exist files which are not linked internally or externally, so crawlers are not made aware of them. Unfortunately, it seems many users do not organize their content into subdirectories, instead preferring to dump all files directly into the user directory. Also, they may have been good webmasters and provided a directory index which overrides directory listings.<br />
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=== Lists ===<br />
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* [[GeoCities_URL_Lists|URL Lists]]<br />
* [[GeoCities_Neighborhood_Lists|Neighborhood Lists]] [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html]<br />
* [[GeoCities_Other|Other]]<br />
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=== Users involved ===<br />
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* [[User:Jscott]], Joey paulprote and many others are downloading the main www.geocities.com stuff.<br />
* [[User:Soult]] downloaded parts of ''de.geocities.com'', which is available as tar archive [http://prodtahoe4.allmydata.com:8133/uri/URI%3ADIR2-RO%3Afrfytm6vfyv7gkfi3jirkdyxc4%3Ajksfales55nsawm3hxdfl2fc2gnhzcaqtikmv4qwukpcfhciyuvq/ here] (download takes 1-2 minutes to start before the first packets arrive, be patient)<br />
* [[User:Bbot]] is mirroring downloaded content.<br />
* [[User:Scumola]] is crawling GeoCities using the archive.org crawler but on hold in June due to Comcast's 250GB bandwidth limit. Will resume in July.<br />
* [http://asheesh.org Asheesh Laroia] ([[User:Paulproteus]]) helped test User-Agent tricks to download from GeoCities, and purchased geociti.es.<br />
* [[User:Gouki]], is downloading br.geocities.com.<br />
* [[User:Jourdy288]] is going to try to save [http://www.geocities.com/timesSquare/Arena/8775/index.html Sega Master System Land].<br />
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<div>__NOTOC__<br />
Upon the news of the closing of GeoCities by Yahoo, Archive Team initiated the '''GeoCities Project''', a coordinated effort to rescue as much of GeoCities' data as possible off the to-be-decomissioned GeoCities servers. This project was begun in April of 2009, and continued throughout the summer of 2009 up to the closing date of October 26, 2009 by Yahoo. A list of Frequently Asked Questions about this project was generated and is available [[GeoCities_FAQ|Here]].<br />
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Parallel to our efforts (and in conjunction with them) archive.org began a major "deep crawl" of GeoCities to add to their wayback machine. The page for their project is [http://www.archive.org/web/geocities.php here]. Please note that Archive Team and archive.org are 100% separate entities, with different approaches to the project of saving data and history.<br />
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''It can not be stressed enough how many people were involved with this project - some preferred to be behind the scenes, while Jason Scott continued his habit of being a complete media hog, getting a lot of the interviews and face time with people asking what was up. But there were dozens of people involved, and they supplied weeks of time and effort to find efficient ways to download all of this data before it was removed.''<br />
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== Technical Details About GeoCities ==<br />
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These are now-defunct facts about GeoCities, culled from various sources, intended to provide some technical context for the arrangement of GeoCities that were discovered during the harvesting phase of data. <br />
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=== GeoCities Neighborhoods ===<br />
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Before the acquisition by Yahoo, GeoCities used an unusual organization method for its userbase: Neighborhoods. Separating the subject matter of the pages by taste, neighborhoods with names like Area51 (Science Fiction and Fantasy), Nashville (Country Music), Augusta (Golf) and others allowed for an easier time of finding subject matter the browser was searching for. ''It helps to give context that search engines as the modern world knows them did not exist in such force.'' <br />
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A neighborhood would have up to 9,999 accounts underneath them, with the numbers representing the user's "block". Over time, GeoCities added "Suburbs", which allowed an expansion past 9,999 users; these would have names like "Vault" and "Cavern" under the "Area51" neighborhood. A URL would then be available in the form of '''www.geocities.com/NEIGHBORHOOD/SUBURB/XXXX'''.<br />
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[http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Geocities Homestead Neighborhoods and Suburbs], although having not been updated since 2007, gives an excellent overview of the GeoCities history of Neighborhood organization. <br />
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=== The Various Names and Incarnations of GeoCities ===<br />
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Originally called '''Beverly Hills Internet''', the company opened up free web hosting in 1995 after a beta period. [http://scout.wisc.edu/Projects/PastProjects/NH/95-07/95-07-10/0031.html] It renamed itself to '''Geopages''', and then '''GeoCities'''. After its acquisition by Yahoo, its name was changed to '''Yahoo GeoCities''', which is what it remained until its demise.<br />
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=== The Size and Amount of GeoCities Accounts ===<br />
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GeoCities would provide a limited amount of space for its users to build websites, although this amount grew over time. While the most famous is about fifteen megabytes per site, the number was actually much more variant and changed through different amounts over its lifetime. This is an attempt to find citations of the size from various sources; it is clear from the various points of reference that different people got different deals through GeoCities over the years, especially with regard to paid versus free hosting. <br />
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This small size explains the usual look and feel of GeoCities accounts, as users were naturally restricted in what items they could have on their pages, and would lean towards simple graphics or utilizing hotlinsk to build their look.<br />
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* 1997: 2mb Limit for GeoCities. [http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1997/02/msg00135.html]<br />
* April 29, 1997: GeoCities welcomes its 500,000th "Homesteader" and increases the limit to 11mb. [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-19356230.html]<br />
* 1998: 15mb limit for small business service [http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/1998/03/11031]<br />
* 1999: GeoCities has 12 terabytes of storage. [http://www.detritus.org/mike/gc/]<br />
* 2001: 15mb for GeoCities, 25mb for $8.95 a month [http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001/10/29/free-web-pages.htm]<br />
* 2002: 15mb Limit for GeoCities.<br />
* 2002: 25mb for the newly introduced "GeoCities Plus"<br />
* 2003: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of June)<br />
* 2005: 75mb for GeoCities Plus (As of January)<br />
* 2005: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of April)<br />
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Yahoo's Site Explorer showed 23M html pages in Yahoo's index as of April 29th, 2009.<br />
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=== Tips n' Tricks ===<br />
<br />
* Although simple directory listings aren't accessible for users' accounts, you might be able to obtain Apache-style directory listing for their subdirectories. For example, by stripping off the page filename for [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html], we can obtain an index for the subdirectory [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/ http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/]; the benefit of this is that there may exist files which are not linked internally or externally, so crawlers are not made aware of them. Unfortunately, it seems many users do not organize their content into subdirectories, instead preferring to dump all files directly into the user directory. Also, they may have been good webmasters and provided a directory index which overrides directory listings.<br />
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=== Lists ===<br />
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* [[GeoCities_URL_Lists|URL Lists]]<br />
* [[GeoCities_Neighborhood_Lists|Neighborhood Lists]] [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html]<br />
* [[GeoCities_Other|Other]]<br />
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=== Users involved ===<br />
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* [[User:Jscott]], Joey paulprote and many others are downloading the main www.geocities.com stuff.<br />
* [[User:Soult]] downloaded parts of ''de.geocities.com'', which is available as tar archive [http://prodtahoe4.allmydata.com:8133/uri/URI%3ADIR2-RO%3Afrfytm6vfyv7gkfi3jirkdyxc4%3Ajksfales55nsawm3hxdfl2fc2gnhzcaqtikmv4qwukpcfhciyuvq/ here] (download takes 1-2 minutes to start before the first packets arrive, be patient)<br />
* [[User:Bbot]] is mirroring downloaded content.<br />
* [[User:Scumola]] is crawling GeoCities using the archive.org crawler but on hold in June due to Comcast's 250GB bandwidth limit. Will resume in July.<br />
* [http://asheesh.org Asheesh Laroia] ([[User:Paulproteus]]) helped test User-Agent tricks to download from GeoCities, and purchased geociti.es.<br />
* [[User:Gouki]], is downloading br.geocities.com.<br />
* [[User:Jourdy288]] is going to try to save [http://www.geocities.com/timesSquare/Arena/8775/index.html Sega Master System Land].<br />
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<div>#REDIRECT [[GeoCities FAQ]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities/FAQ&diff=1308GeoCities/FAQ2009-12-07T08:28:40Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities FAQ to GeoCities FAQ</p>
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=== THE GEOCITIES GRAB FAQ ===<br />
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This FAQ has been written because an awful lot of people got wind of the newest project on the Archive Team plate, which is to attempt to mirror as much of the doomed website GeoCities as quickly as possible. Press coverage means that a lot of people are coming around and asking how they can help or what is up. This is a current listing of Jason's general answers to these questions. You can write to him at jason@textfiles.com, post to his page on this site, or go to EFNet and join channel #archiveteam.<br />
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These questions will likely change, as will the answers.<br />
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== GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT ==<br />
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'''What are you trying to do?'''<br />
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Simply put, we're trying to capture a copy of the family of websites known as "GeoCities" before its parent company, Yahoo!, takes the site down completely. <br />
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'''Why are you doing this?'''<br />
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We happen to believe that GeoCities represents a rather important point in the growth of the world wide web (and Internet in general): Many thousands of people came online and were given the ability to create their own web pages, to be seen by a potential worldwide audience, and set out to do just that. Some sites were terrible, and some were brilliant, but they all are of their time - some of these sites have been maintained to the present day but thousands were left alone for the last decade and represent a time capsule of the mid 1990s Internet. Deleting these pages, some of which were curated by people no longer with us, or by people who have completely forgotten the work they did, seems a shame.<br />
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'''When does Yahoo! plan to take down GeoCities?'''<br />
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Currently, the main GeoCities site claims it will go down later in the summer, but gives no firm dates as to what that means. Jason Scott's opinion is that Yahoo will take down GeoCities to coincide with quarterly financial reports/earnings, meaning before June 30th. Traditionally, this is when most companies vainly attempt to show "progress" or "measures", and cutting off GeoCities would be a prime example. This is, however, just a guess - in the case of Yahoo! Pets, the site was taken down with absolutely no warning, and Yahoo! Briefcase, a site that is the dictionary definition of "tiny", was taken down with 30 days of semi-warning after ten full years of being up. So let's assume it will be sooner rather than later.<br />
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'''Are you Archive.org?'''<br />
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No, we're not.<br />
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'''Archive.org has the wayback machine - your job is done!'''<br />
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No, not true. The Wayback Machine (also known as the Internet Archive by some) is a wonderful, great tool and a historical marvel and precious resource, but it does not crawl every single last page in a website. Many sites on GeoCities are not on the Wayback machine (although many are) and so our work is only slightly redundant, and ideally will be easier to analyze and provide.<br />
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'''How about Google Cache - your job is done!'''<br />
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The Google Cache, contrary to some opinion, is not a long-term storage solution. Google removes caches anywhere from a few weeks to a few months after the site disappears - once GeoCities is down, the cache will go away. Understandably, there's always the chance that somewhere deep in the bowels of Google are copies of GeoCities, but we're not going to bank on that.<br />
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'''Where will the mirrored websites be accessible?'''<br />
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It is allready partly accessible under http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://put/your/url/here. Possibly some websites are not visible there yet, since archive.org is waiting 6 months before making the mirrored data available.<br />
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Data fetched independently by AT will be probably mirrored under http://geociti.es. However the scheme of the mirrored URLs below http://geociti.es is being decided upon at this moment (26. Oct 2009).<br />
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== TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT ==<br />
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'''How big a site are we talking about here?'''<br />
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Nobody connected with Archive Team has any hard data. Yahoo's Site Explorer claims 23 million pages, and based on downloads we're inclined to say something in the range of 10 Terabytes, but we could be wildly off in any direction. The problem is increased because you can't simply go to a GeoCities site and get everything in the account - some people would have stuff unlinked from anywhere else, and we're not going to find it under any of our methodologies. So in terms of front-end access, we're just going to download until we run out of stuff to download, and then we'll be able to tell you where we are.<br />
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As of April 29th, we had something in the range of 350 gigabytes of GeoCities sites, well into the mid six-figures.<br />
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'''How are you acquiring this data?'''<br />
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The short form is that about 12-24 people are using GNU Wget against the site to within an inch of its life. Wget is a very resilient utility and is very flexible in capturing data and maintaining it in a good form, and then analyzing it to find more connections.<br />
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'''Where are you keeping this data?'''<br />
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People who have the minimum amount of disk space needed (less than a terabyte at the moment, but soon to be two terabytes) are rsync'ing between each other as they go.<br />
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== HOW YOU CAN HELP ==<br />
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Right now, things are generally under control, but you should feel free to come visit '''#archiveteam''' on the EFNet IRC network to come chat (it does get loud in there), or join this wiki.<br />
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Jason is accepting donations to buy hard drives; his paypal is jason@textfiles.com. This is ''not'' a tax-deductable donation - you're basically just giving him money, which he uses to buy drives. So don't do it if you don't like that.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Archiveteam:Current_events&diff=1307Archiveteam:Current events2009-12-07T08:27:26Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>*'''December 7th:''' I'll be showing "Me and You, Kangaroo" to my English students tonight. I finally found a way to play play the mp4 on their computer. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 08:17, 7 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*'''May 1st:''' We got [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 slashdotted!] This has roughly doubled the number of people in the [[IRC_Channel]], which you should totally join. There is now a [[GeoCities_FAQ|FAQ]] up about the [[GeoCities|GeoCities project.]]<br />
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*'''April 28th:''' [[GeoCities]] is dying!</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Archiveteam_talk:Current_events&diff=1306Archiveteam talk:Current events2009-12-07T08:24:59Z<p>Jimhabegger: Created page with 'Jason - I saw this Current events page with nothing on it since May. I hope you can enjoy the humor in my update. If not, I apologize and promise I'll never do it again. --~~~~'</p>
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<div>Jason - I saw this Current events page with nothing on it since May. I hope you can enjoy the humor in my update. If not, I apologize and promise I'll never do it again. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 08:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Archiveteam:Current_events&diff=1305Archiveteam:Current events2009-12-07T08:17:13Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
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<div>*'''December 7th:''' I'll be showing "Me and You, Kangaroo" to my English students tonight. I finally found a way to play play the mp4 on their computer. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 08:17, 7 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*'''May 1st:''' We got [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 slashdotted!] This has roughly doubled the number of people in the [[IRC_Channel]], which you should totally join. There is now a [[Geocities_FAQ|FAQ]] up about the [[Geocities|Geocities project.]]<br />
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*'''April 28th:''' [[Geocities]] is dying!</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch&diff=1304Deathwatch2009-12-07T07:05:32Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
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<div>__NOTOC__<br />
The Deathwatch is meant to be a central indicator of websites and networks that are shutting down, or to serve as an indicator of what happened to particular sites that shut down quickly. New sites should be added in chronological order, newest death date first. Forward-looking death dates should be added to the first list only. Sites large enough to warrant additional information will receive a dedicated page, linked from here.<br />
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=== Pre-emptive Alarmbells ===<br />
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* [http://friendfeed.com/ FriendFeed] has been purchased by [http://facebook.com/ Facebook], leaving FriendFeed users uncertain as to its future.<br />
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* Archive Team is declaring '''[[Yahoo]]''' no longer a trustable entity. Prove us different, Yahooligans. Or...dont.<br />
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* Going to call this one before it even starts, friends: [https://www.legacylocker.com/ Legacy Locker] promises lifetime control of your data and return of your data to loved ones for just $300 for "lifetime", or $30/year. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/10/AR2009031001211.html] Archive Team says to just say No.<br />
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=== Pining for the Fjords ===<br />
* Yahoo is killing [http://starwars.yahoo.com starwars.yahoo.com] on 2009-12-15. Given their recent history, this will assuredly come as a shock to no one.<br />
* Google acquired [http://etherpad.com Etherpad] on 2009-12-04 and immediately [http://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/google-acquires-appjet announced] a March 2010 content deletion date. After community pressure, Google has decided to [http://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/etherpad-back-online-until-open-sourced open source the Etherpad codebase], keeping the service alive until then. The timeline there is anyone's guess. Tomorrow? Next year?<br />
* The URL-shortening service Cligs is closing: "On Sunday, 25 Oct 2009 at 12:00:00 GMT, the service will stop accepting new short URLs and will stop logging analytics. The forwarding data will be retained so that forwarding can continue for at least till the end of November; after that, there are no guarantees as to how long the service will continue to forward the short URLs to their destinations."[http://blog.cli.gs/news/cligs-shutting-down] All aboard the [[TinyURL]] project.<br />
* The URL-shortening service tr.im is closing: tr.immed URLs will remain active until the end of 2009. All aboard the [[TinyURL]] project.<br />
* Microsoft's SoapBox has announced it is getting off said soapbox on August 31, 2009. [http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/07/soapbox-microsofts-youtube-dies-on-august-31-2009.ars]<br />
* Microsoft's '''Popfly [http://popflyteam.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!51018025071FD37F!336.entry]''' pops off into nowhere on August 24, 2009.<br />
* [http://www.thepiratebay.org The Pirate Bay] has sold out and there are mentions that they will no longer serve torrents by August. If a torrent is lost, it becomes impossible to connect to other computers distributing the shared files. Considering that there are links to it on '''THIS VERY PAGE''', this is pretty dang important.<br />
* [http://hosting.ign.com/faq.php IGN has announced] that it will shut down hosting on August 31, 2009. This includes fan sites hosted on GameSpy and ClassicGaming.<br />
* Yahoo! 360 announces [http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-1qCkw2Ehaak.hdNZkEAzDrpa4Q--?cq=1] that they are closing up shop on July 13, 2009. Of course, you can still register an account but that's the first thing you're told.<br />
* Yahoo! continues their awesome respect for history and data by announcing the closure of '''[http://www.jumpcut.com Jumpcut.com]''', a video hosting and editing site, for June 15, 2009. A software utility has been released to allow you to download the movies from Jumpcut. Otherwise, you are not in great shape - Yahoo says you can move your videos to Flickr, but Flickr cuts off at 90 seconds. A lot of homemade video is going to disappear.<br />
* MSN QnA Beta is closing on May 21 [http://liveqna.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2933A3E375F68349!2244.entry]<br />
* Microblogging platform Rejaw has announced that it will be shutting down on May 31 2009 [http://rejaw.com/rejaw/shout/OOfs2wUaLql]<br />
* Shock! Repeat Offender '''[[Yahoo]]''' has announced that it will close '''[[GeoCities]]''' "later this year...We'll send you more details this summer." [http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html]<br />
* '''Microsoft Encarta''', the online encyclopedia with a 15+ year history, is being shut down. The US version will shut down on October 31, 2009 and the Japanese version on December 31, 2009. [http://www.reuters.com/article/CMPTRS/idUSLV28230720090331] <br />
* '''[http://www.coghead.com Coghead]''', " a web-based service for building and hosting custom online database applications and a software as a platform ‘utility computing’ company", announced it had closed up on February 20, 2009, and that the site would go down permanently on April 20, 2009. [http://blogs.zdnet.com/collaboration/?p=349]. <br />
* '''[http://www.videosift.com Videosift]''' had a combination database and backup failure, losing: "All votes, ever. All member usernames who registered later than around 12 months ago. All member rankings. Your member profile info (e.g., bio, favorite sift, etc.), if any. All activity that happened on the site yesterday, March 11." This is unlikely to kill the site, but an awful lot of data was lost.<br />
* '''Several Google services''' have announced that they will be shutting down. [http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_giveth_and_it_taketh_away.php]<br />
* '''[http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ The Seattle Post-Intelligencer]''' is [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/395463_newspapersale10.html up for sale], the print edition stopped on March 17th 2009 after 146 years. [http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/columnists/zeeck/story/591181.html] Initially, reports indicated it would shut down the website as well as the paper, but a plan was apparently in place to run a "skeleton crew" on an internet-only site. An activist group is trying to motivate a buyer. [http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008708649_apwaseattlenewspapersale2ndldwritethru.html]<br />
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=== Dead as a Doornail ===<br />
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====2009====<br />
* '''favrd''', a website that aggregated favorite tweets from twitter, abruptly shut down on '''December 6, 2009''' with absolutely no warning, killing off thousands of highlighted entries added by group-consensus over significant months. As a reward for their efforts, founder Dean Allen wrote this helpful message: ''"Alas, stars on Twitter have become mere take-out menus hung on the doors of other restaurants. There are still lots of clever and funny things to read every day, but finding these is no longer a challenge – you already follow your sources. Sites like this one now serve mainly as fuel for emotional up-fuckedness in the guise of a game. Just an idea: next time you see something you like, write the person who made it a note telling them so. Even better, explain why. Take care!"'' Advice to people who want to work with Dean Allen's projects in the future: don't.<br />
* '''here.is''' seems to permanently off-line. It ceased to re-direct email for some time ago and as per 11-23-09 it doesn't redirect even URLs any longer.<br />
* '''ArchNacho's & TortillaGodzilla's Quality ROMs''', a site that hosted ROMs for NES, SNES, and Genesis games, which has announced its effective death back in January of 2006, is now finally completely inaccessible, both on its original domain (http://www.qualityroms.com), and on the site that the domain masked (http://home.no.net/qualrom/). Archive.org has [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://qualityroms.com mirrors]of the site up through August 30, 2007, which is after all updates to the site ceased. All ROMs hosted on QualityRoms are included in the mirror and can be downloaded from there.<br />
* '''Imeem''', a site for sharing music and convincing yourself that what you're hearing is good, [http://blog.imeem.com/2009/06/25/simplifying-imeem/ announced] on June 25, 2009 that they were "simplifying" things and deleting all user-generated photos and videos uploaded by users. They gave everyone '''five days''' to get their photos off, and then extended it to ''twenty days'' from the ensuing hue and cry. The uploaded videos had no way to extract them back.<br />
* '''[http://furl.net/ Furl]''' was a social bookmarking service that had been around since 2004. It was acquired by [http://diigo.com/ Diigo] (announced on March 9), allowed people to opt into transferring their bookmarks to Diigo, and shut down on April 17. [http://blog.diigo.com/2009/03/16/welcome-furl-users/ Diigo blog post]; [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/09/diigo-buys-web-page-clipping-service-furl-away-from-looksmart/ Techcrunch post].<br />
* '''[http://www.spiralfrog.com Spiralfrog]''', "a FREE service that lets you download over 3 million songs and videos, legally and safely", pulled up stakes in the night and completely shut down on March 20, 2009. [http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/03/ad-based-music-service-spiralfrog-croaks.ars] Things looked so promising in 2006: [http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2006/08/7611.ars] Oh, and sadly, all your music you downloaded from them will stop working within 30 days or less. [http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/09/spiralfrog-debuts-with-free-ad-supported-music-downloads.ars]<br />
[[Image:HP upline goes offline.jpg|right|300px|Did we say upline? We meant offline.]]<br />
* It doesn't get more ironic than this: '''[https://www.upline.com/ Upline]''', a HP-owned online backup service, is being shut down.[http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10173136-2.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5] ''They almost immediately turned off the backup process,'' and then announced all your restorable data would go offline on March 31, roughly 30 days after announcement. Surprise!<br />
* '''[[Yahoo_Briefcase|Yahoo Briefcase]]''', a positively ancient site run by Yahoo that provided you with 25 free megabytes of storage space for your junk, sent a mail to what were likely years-old contact addresses to tell them they had a little more than a month to get their files out, March 30, 2009. After that, the files would be deleted. What, Yahoo doesn't have a spare memory stick to store what must be the amount of files in this service for the next year?<br />
* '''Yahoo! Farechase''', an airline fare aggregation and searching site, was shut down on March 25, 2009. It had previously been it's own company, founded in 1999, and purchased by Yahoo! in 2004. [http://news.cnet.com/Yahoo-buys-travel-company/2100-1032_3-5300561.html]<br />
* '''[http://www.scoopt.com/ Scoopt]''', a "citizen journalism" site run by Getty images to allow the uploading of images by citizen journalists and the chance to be licensed to news organizations, announced they would no longer take any new imagery after February 6, 2009, and will shut down completely on March 6, 2009. Some content uploaders "may" be contacted about being absorbed into the main Getty site.<br />
[[Image:20090227.jpg|right|300px]]<br />
* '''The [http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ Rocky Mountain News]''' has shut down as of February 27, 2009. [http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2009/feb/26/rocky-mountain-news-closes-friday-final-edition/] We're watching to see what happens with the website (and the material, and the newspaper itself). With a 150 year history, there's a lot of backstory, and how this chronicler of history will end up, so too will many others. There is an excellent documentary about the last days of the Rocky Mountain News [http://www.vimeo.com/3390739 here].<br />
*'''Electronic Gaming Monthly''' has recently shut its doors. [http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/01/06/egm-closed-ziff-lays-off-30/]<br />
*'''[http://culture11.com/home Culture11]''' ran out of money.[http://www.patrolmag.com/scanner/1263/culture11-is-over]<br />
* '''[[Lycos Europe]]''' shut down their '''Tripod''' hosting service on February 28, 2009. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/18/AR2009011800224.html] [http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-lycos-europe-killing-tripod-customers-warned-to-back-up/] Note that Lycos Europe are distinct from Lycos.com. '''[[Lycos Europe]]''' is also shuttering the social networking site '''Jubii''' as of February 15, 2009. [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/18/lycos-kills-jubii-while-theyre-at-it/] A Danish version of the site will remain open for the time being.<br />
* '''Windows Live''' shut down the '''MSN Groups''' on February 23. They extended their original date from February 21st to give Group owners the weekend to prepare. [http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!34861.entry?sa=503427140]<br />
* '''Home of the Underdogs''' went under on Feb 9th[http://flashofsteel.com/index.php/2009/02/13/rip-hotu/]. There has been some passed along words by the site's owner, now working at an NGO, that an attempt to bring it back may happen. (She definitely has backups of the site.) A community-driven effort to revive the site is currently underway [http://www.hotud.org]. As of Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:38 backups have been restored but over 1,000 files are missing. They are asking the community for help.<br />
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* '''[http://ma.gnolia.com/ ma.gnolia.com]''' had a catastrophic disk corruption/failure on January 31, 2009. From the message on the main site: ''"As I evaluate recovery options, I can't provide a certain timeline or prognosis as to to when or to what degree Ma.gnolia or your bookmarks will return; only that this process will take days, not hours."'' Ma.gnolia had an excellent export feature... hope you used it and did the backups they didn't!<br />
* '''[http://dominomag.com/ Domino Magazine]''', a style/interior design magazine, announced that they were shutting down on January 28, 2009. [http://mydecofile.dominomag.com/ My Deco File], one of the site's heavily used social bookmarking features (somewhat like delicious for images) will remain up for a few weeks to allow users to save their stuff.<br />
* '''Yahoo Pets''' was shut down and redirected with absolutely no notice around January 27, 2009. [http://blog.dogster.com/2009/01/28/yahoo-quietly-shutters-yahoo-pets-grin/]<br />
* '''[[totse]].com''' [http://www.totse.com/ closed its doors] on January 17, 2009. As of Jan 20th, a mirror [http://totse.danladds.com/ exists], alongside a [http://totse.danladds.com/text/ repository of the totse text files].<br />
* '''[[Ficlets]].com''' (owned by AOL) has announced they are closing on January 15, 2009. [http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/12/02/ficlets-will-be-shut-down-permanently/]<br />
* '''[[Circavie]].com''' (owned by AOL) has announced they are closing on January 15, 2009. [http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/12/03/circavie-will-be-shut-down-permanently/]<br />
* '''[[Co.mments]].com''' closed down on January 11, 2009.<br />
* '''[[AOL_Pictures|AOL Pictures]]''' said so long on January 9, 2009. To their credit, you can still yank your stuff into other photo services until June of 2009. (At least, according to their goodbye letter.)<br />
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====2008====<br />
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* [http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11227 Overview of 2008 Technology News]<br />
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''Biggest Botched Shutdowns of 2008''<br />
* '''[http://www.peopleconnectionblog.com/2008/11/06/hometown-has-been-shutdown AOL Hometown]''' (owned by AOL) was officially killed on October 31, 2008. [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1617 Jason wrote about it.]<br />
[[Image:Stayclassyaol.png|thumb|right|470px|The full extent of warning AOL gave about shutting down Hometown.]]<br />
* '''Digitalrailroad.net''', a photo hosting site, gave their users a 24-hour eviction notice on October 27, 2008. They shut down 10 hours after the 24-hour notice. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10078042-2.html]<br />
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''Other deaths of 2008''<br />
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* '''[http://www.lively.com/goodbye.html Lively]''', a 3D Avatar space experiment, was killed in a really crappy way by Google on December 31, 2008.<br />
* '''[http://pingmag.jp/ Pingmag]''', the magazine from Tokyo about "Designing and Making things," simultaneously rang in the new year and checked out of existence on December 31, 2008.<br />
* '''[http://blog.mixwit.com/ Mixwit]''' said goodbye on December 27, 2008. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10126057-2.html]<br />
* '''[http://www.castlecops.com/ Castle Cops]''' put away their badges on December 23, 2008. [http://www.idf50.co.uk/clubhouse/computer-room/15996-castle-cops-closed-down.html]<br />
* '''[[Google Research Datasets]]''', shut down on December 19(?), 2008. [http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/12/googlescienceda.html]<br />
[[Image:Final image 01.png|400px|right|thumb|The last person at Yahoo! Kickstart turning off the lights.]]<br />
* '''Yahoo! Kickstart''', a social network for college students revealed in 2007 [http://mashable.com/2007/08/30/yahoo-kickstart/] got expelled on about December 18, 2008. [http://www.techpluto.com/yahoo-kickstart-shutdown/]<br />
* '''Flip.com''', a social network for teenage girls, shut down on December 16, 2008. Users were advised to print out their digital scrapbooks as backups. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10112021-93.html]<br />
* '''[http://pownce.com/ Pownce]''' was closed on December 15, 2008.<br />
* '''[http://getsatisfaction.com/iwantsandy/topics/a_fork_in_the_road_an_important_announcement_about_i_want_sandy I Want Sandy]''' [http://www.webcitation.org/5eFA58kqN (WEBCITE)] was shut down on December 8, 2008. A lot of people complained about this one, while others thanked the site for shutting down and wished the founder well! <br />
* '''[http://live.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Live!]''' died on December 3, 2008. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13515_3-10081486-26.html]<br />
* '''[http://ourworld.cs.com/sfrederick2/index.htm?f=fs|Compuserve OurWorld]''' slipped into history on October 31, 2008.<br />
* '''[http://blogrush.com BlogRush.com]''' failed to provide bloggers with the traffic they so desperately desired, and the creator admitted on October 29, 2008 that his 4AM idea may not have been so brilliant. [http://mashable.com/2008/10/29/blogrush-shutdown/]<br />
* '''[http://wallop.com/ Wallop]''', Microsoft's attempt at starting a social network, died on September 18, 2008. All that remains is a few Facebook apps. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10041856-36.html] [http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/wallop-takes-a-leap-into-the-deadpool/]<br />
* '''Yahoo! Mash''', a social networking site, became mush on September 28, 2009, after 30 days warning. [http://mashable.com/2008/08/28/yahoo-mash-has-been-quashed/] <br />
* Virtual Magic Kingdom [http://www.intercot.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=130548 closed its gates] on May 21, 2008. [http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/04/disneys-virtual.html] The amount of broken hearts and anguish over this move was amazing, and a warning sign to any family-oriented site that encourages families to join up.<br />
* '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Secret Think Secret]''' was killed by Apple and shut down on February 14, 2008. [http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/12/apple-and-think.html]<br />
* '''Uber.com''' was a social blog site that died. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10052301-36.html]<br />
* '''Social.fm''' couldn't stand up to Last.fm, and died. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10005554-36.html]<br />
* '''Brijit.com''', a news aggregation site, closed on May 15, 2008. It might be closed for good. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-9945059-36.html]<br />
* '''Yahoo! Design''', a showcase of designing and information aesthetics related to the Yahoo! properties, got revised into oblivion in February, 2008 as part of a 1,000 employee layoff. [http://infosthetics.com/archives/2008/02/rip_yahoo_design_closed_down.html]<br />
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====2007====<br />
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''Deaths of 2007''<br />
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* '''Yahoo! Podcasts'', a Podcast searching site founded in October 2005 [http://www.ysearchblog.com/2005/10/09/listen-to-the-internet-with-yahoo-podcasts/], was closed with no explanation on October 31, 2007. [http://searchengineland.com/yahoo-podcasts-to-close-the-sorry-state-of-podcast-search-12288]<br />
* '''[http://oink.cd/ OiNK's Pink Palace]''' Music Bittorrent tracker site with huge user community which cared greatly about digital content and music. Would have been a great resource for the industry to research. Shutdown October 23, 2007. [http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2007/10/oink]<br />
* '''[http://jam.bbc.co.uk/ BBC Jam]''' was [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6449619.stm suspended] March 20, 2007 and [http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/feb/28/bbc.digitalmedia will not be coming back].<br />
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=== Other Endangered Species ===<br />
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* '''MUDs (Multi User Dungeons)''' are [http://www.offworld.com/2009/01/mud-history-going-down-wikis-m.html losing their history].<br />
*[http://www.astronautix.com Encyclopedia Astronautica] is the most comprehensive collection of the history of space travel. '''Period.''' Seriously, the official NASA history folks will refer you this website if they can't answer your questions. However, Mark Wade (the sole creator/maintainer) abandoned his blog at the end of 2007, and the Encyclopedia has not been updated since May of 2008, despite much happening in the space exploration world since then.<br />
* '''All of the 1UP Network''' and related properties were bought by UGO recently, and should be watched carefully. [http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/01/06/egm-closed-ziff-lays-off-30/]<br />
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=== Just When You Least Expect It ===<br />
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* Archive Team keeps a list of [[Fire_Drill|Healthy Sites]] that could be fine today and not so hot tomorrow. We focus on ways to back your personal data off these sites so you don't put yourself at unnecessary risk.<br />
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=== Other Sites Remember the Dead ===<br />
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* [http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/ Ghost Sites of the Web] by Steve Baldwin. [http://www.disobey.com/ghostsites/atom.xml RSS Feed]<br />
* [http://itdied.com/ It Died] by Glenn Fleishman. [http://itdied.com/atom.xml RSS Feed].<br />
* [http://www.techcrunch.com/tag/deadpool/ Techcrunch's Deadpool] is an excellent archive of stories about site closings.<br />
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=== Tragic ===<br />
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* [http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10029798-38.html "Russia Web site owner killed after arrest" - article at CNET News]<br />
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=== Humorous ===<br />
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* [http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10448650 "Dating website's miscalculated publicity attempt" - article at New Zealand Herald]<br />
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=== Eleventh Hour Reprieves ===<br />
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* '''[[JPG Magazine]]''' announced it would shut down on January 5, 2009 [http://jpgmag.com/blog/2009/01/jpg_magazine_says_goodbye.html], but the site lives [http://jpgmag.com/blog/2009/02/an_exciting_future_for_jpg.html lives on under new ownership]. Feel free to download the [http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4624703/ torrent]<br />
*'''Filefront.com''' is closing up shop [http://farewell.filefront.com/]. The site will be suspended on March 30, 2009. 1.5 Million files and 48+ TB of space gone just like that. '''UPDATE''' As of April 2, 2009, it looks like there may have been an 11th hour reprieve for Filefront. According to a message reportedly from the original founders of the service [http://welcome.filefront.com/], the site has been re-acquired by them in order to prevent its proposed shuttering.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=1303Talk:Main Page2009-12-07T07:04:19Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Corrections */ new section</p>
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<div>Maybe we should tell each other what sites we have archived on ours boxes ? I just started on http://ficlets.com/ . Joseph 12/01/09 5:20pm<br />
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== oop ==<br />
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i see that you noticed this, but each site page has a place for you to put your sig if you are working on it :)<br />
--[[User:Ross|Ross]] 02:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Logo ideas ==<br />
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Some logo/banner ideas I came up with when I had a bit of spare time. I'd appreciate it if people let me know what they think. --Josef K.<br />
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[[Image:Archiveteam1.png|200px|thumb|left|Large logo (note 80s pseudo-neon text]] [[Image:Archiveteamsmall.png|200px|thumb|left|Small Logo]] [[Image:Archiveteamlogo1.png|200px|thumb|left|Logo with text only]]<br />
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NICE --[[User:Ross|Ross]] 20:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Added as our corner logo. --[[User:Jscott|Jscott]] 23:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Corrections ==<br />
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I can't edit this page. The "C" in "GeoCities" needs to be capitalized. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 07:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!&diff=1301Yahoo!2009-12-07T05:07:43Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
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<div>===As of January, 2009, Archive Team no longer considers Yahoo a dependable location for data.===<br />
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This is not based on their engineering, which has shown itself to be consistent and with few outages. Rather, it appears the company is in relative free-fall with regards to which projects they will maintain and what comes under any given knife for cost-cutting measures.<br />
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When a company enters this sort of spiral with regard to one of their core businesses (hosting and providing of information services), and consistently gives little or no indication of their next move, it becomes incumbent upon the users of that service to either demand changes in policy, or find alternatives, even poor ones, and build those up.<br />
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When a company decides (or, more accurately, someone with the company decides) that a website or sub-site is no longer viable, then it's living on borrowed time. Like a store closing, or a very sick pet, it becomes a matter of how to bring things to a close. This is entirely up to the closing party, and from their behavior, we can see how they will consider doing this.<br />
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Previously, Yahoo showed some level of restraint in how they would shut down services. For example, when [[Yahoo! Photos]], a photo sharing site, was closed in favor of the bright and shiny new property [[Flickr]], it was announced, a special site was provided to assist users in transferring their photos to other sites, and there was an opportunity to purchase an archive CD of your content. <ref>http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/photos/photos3/closing/closing-02.html</ref>. It should be noted, however, that [[Yahoo! Photos]] was closed under much protest and duress of the userbase, who in some cases had no interest in transferring to [[Flickr]] and wished merely to maintain their own interface.<br />
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But now, Yahoo seems to have no issues with very quick shutdown, with little warning, and almost no regard for the quality of the site.<br />
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Some examples of this new behavior:<br />
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* Yahoo is closing [[GeoCities]] down "later this year." <ref>http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html</ref> Time to start mirroring...<br />
* Yahoo closed [http://www.crunchbase.com/product/yahoo-brickhouse Brickhouse], their in-house development and prototype department (think of it as an incubator) in December of 2008. They were swift enough to close down the building within weeks. <ref>http://george08.blogspot.com/2008/12/not-quite-what-i-had-in-mind.html</ref><br />
* In December of 2008, Yahoo began layoffs at [[Flickr]], a site previously untouchable, including George Oates<ref>http://george08.blogspot.com/2008/12/not-quite-what-i-had-in-mind.html</ref>, who designed the interface of [[Flickr]], and championed the site's interaction with the "Commons", including the US Library of Congress, and making Creative Commons licenses the default for [[Flickr]]'s photo uploads. Oates was laid off mid-trip on a fact-finding and information trip for Yahoo, having met and advocated [[Flickr]] to a number of prominent folks. <ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/dec/11/yahoo-flickr-layoffs</ref><br />
* On or about January 27, 2009, with ''absolutely no notice'', [[Yahoo Pets]] was shut down, all content removed from the web, and completely redirected under another Yahoo property, [[Shine]]. <ref>http://blog.dogster.com/2009/01/28/yahoo-quietly-shutters-yahoo-pets-grin/</ref><br />
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===Please do not use Yahoo or Yahoo-owned sites for any non-retrievable personal data.===<br />
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Non-retrievable data means that there is no export function, or way to pull your personal data off the site. You should continue to use it if you can be assured that the Yahoo function you are using will not dramatically affect your life if it disappears tomorrow. Because it might.<br />
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===Yahoo Services===<br />
* [[Flickr]]<br />
* [[Delicious]]<br />
* [[Upcoming]]<br />
* [[GeoCities]]<br />
* [[Yahoo! Groups]]<br />
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== References ==<br />
<references/></div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Who_We_Are&diff=1300Who We Are2009-12-07T05:04:34Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
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<div>This project is composed of volunteers, currently coordinated by [[User:Jscott|Jason Scott]].<br />
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If you're wondering where to stick your nose in, we could use:<br />
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* '''Writers''', who can create clear essays and instructions for archivists and concerned parties.<br />
* '''People with Lots of Hosted Disk Space''' who have a proper hosted webserver and fat pipe, who are willing (when asked) to consider hosting mirrored dead sites or archives.<br />
* '''People who love setting up torrents''' who can do the same as the mirror folks, but do so hosting torrents.<br />
* '''OCD-rich individuals who want to download things''' who will respond to our alerts and call outs and download entire sites or diagnose ways to get at obfuscated data.<br />
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Mirror and torrent people should write [[User:Jscott|Jason]] at jason@textfiles.com. Press people looking for an easy, quote-filled interview about this important subject can contact Jason as well.<br />
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== GeoCities heritage projects: help wanted ==<br />
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I'm looking for people to help with some [[GeoCities]] heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:Geocities&diff=1299Talk:Geocities2009-12-07T05:01:47Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Talk:Geocities to Talk:GeoCities:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[Talk:GeoCities]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1298Talk:GeoCities2009-12-07T05:01:47Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Talk:Geocities to Talk:GeoCities:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
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So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
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[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
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[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
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[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
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[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
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"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
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[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
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[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Help wanted ==<br />
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Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
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- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
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- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
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- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
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- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
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- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
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- Reunions of homesteaders and community leaders.<br />
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--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Geocities&diff=1297Geocities2009-12-07T05:01:44Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities to GeoCities:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[GeoCities]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities&diff=1296GeoCities2009-12-07T05:01:44Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities to GeoCities:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>__NOTOC__<br />
[[Image:Geocities.gif|left]] '''GeoCities''' was a once very popular web hosting service founded in 1994 and purchased by [[Yahoo]] in 1999. Marked by its once-generous allotment of 15 megabytes and the free (with added advertisements) price, it was at one point the 3rd most-browsed site on the World Wide Web.<br />
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Because the site was free and marketed primarily to first-time or relatively new internet users, the quality of websites on GeoCities became a persistent, oft-referred joke - the amateurish layout, use of animated gifs, and prone-to-personal websites dominated the standard GeoCities pages, and were often abandoned by their owners for good soon after finding better approaches to telling their stories or showing off their data.<br />
<br />
In April 2009, [http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html Yahoo announced they would be closing GeoCities "later this year"]. In July of 2009, Yahoo announced the firm date of ''October 26, 2009'' for the closing of GeoCities, and offered a number of hosting plans (for pay) to transfer data from GeoCities to these new locations.<br />
<br />
While the natural urge by some would be to let GeoCities sink into obscurity and death, leaving nothing in its wake but bad memories and shudders of recognition at endless "under construction" GIFs, the fact remains that GeoCities was for millions of people the first experience dealing with the low-cost, full-color, world-accessible website and all the possibilities this contained. To not at least have the option of browsing these old sites would be a loss of the very history of the web from the side of the people who came to know it, not the designers who descended upon it. For that reason, Archive Team thinks GeoCities is worth saving.<br />
<br />
== The [[Geocities_Project|Geocities Project]] and Friends ==<br />
<br />
Upon the announcement of the closing of GeoCities, an attempt was made to rescue as much data from GeoCities' destruction as possible. The page with details about the project is [[Geocities_Project|here]]. The project's harvesting phase was from April-October 2009, and involved several dozen people and hundreds of machine instances. To various degrees of quality, a very large amount of GeoCities information was mirrored.<br />
<br />
There have been other parallel projects also mirroring GeoCities besides Archive Team. These include [http://www.archive.org Archive.Org], [http://www.reocities.com Reocities], [http://www.geocities.ws geocities.ws], and [http://www.internetarchaeology.org/ Internet Archaeology]. All groups appear to have gotten different amounts of the GeoCities collection, and most are now sharing data to track down gaps and share copies.<br />
<br />
== The Closure ==<br />
<br />
GeoCities closed in reality at around 12:30pm Pacific Standard Time on October 27, 2009. Attempts to reach most previous URLs either redirect to a page telling you GeoCities is closed, or bounce to a Yahoo search page and suggest you check Archive.Org's collection of saved GeoCities pages. Archive Team found some pages lingering days afterwards, likely a reflection of the size of GeoCities machinery and complexity of a decade of system administrations and hacks.<br />
<br />
== Under Construction ==<br />
<br />
To demonstrate some of the things being lost, Jason Scott created an exhibit called [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction This Page Is Under Construction], a collection of hundreds of "Under Construction" GIFs from the downloaded data of GeoCities. Nearly a quarter of a million people have been subjected to this display, but only a few thousand are brave enough to take on the sequel, [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail Please Mail Me].<br />
<br />
== Press Mentions of the GeoCities Closure and the GeoCities Archive Project ==<br />
<br />
=== Articles about GeoCities Closing ===<br />
<br />
* [http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Ars Technica]: Started in 1994, GeoCities was like the Facebook to Angelfire's MySpace—competing webpage services that '''allowed over-enthused HTML newbies to create artfully horrific webpages to represent themselves in the early days of the Internet'''.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2009/04/24/razing-yahoos-geocities.aspx fool.com]: As anyone who has surfed through GeoCities over the years will tell you, an '''Internet without GeoCities is like a world of celluloid without Keanu Reeves flicks'''. The absence of GeoCities won't create a cultural void. Few will miss its passing. It's loaded mostly with hobbyist tribute pages, authored by penny-pinching cybersurfers who put up with primitive tools and gaudy ads in exchange for free hosting. Many of the pages were created years ago, and abandoned like bunny rabbits after Easter Sunday, Ugg boots after winter, and anything Reeves did after the first Matrix movie.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ TechCrunch]: One of the pioneers of web-hosting sites, GeoCities gave users personal publishing tools and created “neighborhoods” within its web platform for users to be able to create pages, add a picture, text, a guest book and a website counter. '''Long before MySpace, GeoCities was known as a place where teenagers, college students, and eventually others could impose their own garish taste upon the rest of the world.'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html PC World]: Of the 12 remaining GeoCities users, only one was available for comment. "Holy crap!" said the user, a red-faced fellow named Strong Bad. "'''The scroll buttons and animated GIFs on that site were unbeatable.'''"<br />
<br />
* [http://thehoot.net/articles/6813 The Brandeis Hoot]: Geocities: the end of an Internet era, by Alex Schneider<br />
<br />
=== Articles and Mentions of Archive Team's GeoCities Project ===<br />
<br />
* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/28/geocities_preservation/ The Register]: A group of web preservationists called the Archive Team is trying to save most of Geocities for the ages before Yahoo! erases the beloved old-school web-hosting service from the face of the internet.<br />
<br />
* [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 Slashdot]: jamie found this note from Jason Scott, who organizes the Archive Team. They are busy downloading as much of Geocities as they can before it vanishes from the Net after Yahoo pulled the plug.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8fn2u/bring_bandwidth_and_disks_help_me_save_geocities/ reddit.com]<br />
<br />
* Jason Scott appeared on the April 29, 2009 edition of [http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2009/04/rescuing-geocit.html Future Tense] to discuss why GeoCities should be rescued.<br />
<br />
* [http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2009/10/26/geocities-archive-tributes/ The Coffee Desk]<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=15228 We Built These Cities] by Brianna Snyder, Fairfield Weekly, week of October 29, 2009.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.osnews.com/story/22400/GeoCities_Decommissioning_Unleashes_Torrent_of_Nostalgia GeoCities Decommissioning Unleashes Torrent of Nostalgia] by David Adams on October 27, 2009.<br />
<br />
== Help Wanted ==<br />
<br />
I'm looking for people to help with some GeoCities heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities_Project&diff=1295GeoCities Project2009-12-06T12:24:41Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in Geocities</p>
<hr />
<div>__NOTOC__<br />
Upon the news of the closing of GeoCities by Yahoo, Archive Team initiated the '''GeoCities Project''', a coordinated effort to rescue as much of GeoCities' data as possible off the to-be-decomissioned GeoCities servers. This project was begun in April of 2009, and continued throughout the summer of 2009 up to the closing date of October 26, 2009 by Yahoo. A list of Frequently Asked Questions about this project was generated and is available [[Geocities_FAQ|Here]].<br />
<br />
Parallel to our efforts (and in conjunction with them) archive.org began a major "deep crawl" of GeoCities to add to their wayback machine. The page for their project is [http://www.archive.org/web/geocities.php here]. Please note that Archive Team and archive.org are 100% separate entities, with different approaches to the project of saving data and history.<br />
<br />
''It can not be stressed enough how many people were involved with this project - some preferred to be behind the scenes, while Jason Scott continued his habit of being a complete media hog, getting a lot of the interviews and face time with people asking what was up. But there were dozens of people involved, and they supplied weeks of time and effort to find efficient ways to download all of this data before it was removed.''<br />
<br />
== Technical Details About GeoCities ==<br />
<br />
These are now-defunct facts about GeoCities, culled from various sources, intended to provide some technical context for the arrangement of GeoCities that were discovered during the harvesting phase of data. <br />
<br />
=== GeoCities Neighborhoods ===<br />
<br />
Before the acquisition by Yahoo, GeoCities used an unusual organization method for its userbase: Neighborhoods. Separating the subject matter of the pages by taste, neighborhoods with names like Area51 (Science Fiction and Fantasy), Nashville (Country Music), Augusta (Golf) and others allowed for an easier time of finding subject matter the browser was searching for. ''It helps to give context that search engines as the modern world knows them did not exist in such force.'' <br />
<br />
A neighborhood would have up to 9,999 accounts underneath them, with the numbers representing the user's "block". Over time, GeoCities added "Suburbs", which allowed an expansion past 9,999 users; these would have names like "Vault" and "Cavern" under the "Area51" neighborhood. A URL would then be available in the form of '''www.geocities.com/NEIGHBORHOOD/SUBURB/XXXX'''.<br />
<br />
[http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Geocities Homestead Neighborhoods and Suburbs], although having not been updated since 2007, gives an excellent overview of the GeoCities history of Neighborhood organization. <br />
<br />
=== The Various Names and Incarnations of GeoCities ===<br />
<br />
Originally called '''Beverly Hills Internet''', the company opened up free web hosting in 1995 after a beta period. [http://scout.wisc.edu/Projects/PastProjects/NH/95-07/95-07-10/0031.html] It renamed itself to '''Geopages''', and then '''GeoCities'''. After its acquisition by Yahoo, its name was changed to '''Yahoo GeoCities''', which is what it remained until its demise.<br />
<br />
=== The Size and Amount of GeoCities Accounts ===<br />
<br />
GeoCities would provide a limited amount of space for its users to build websites, although this amount grew over time. While the most famous is about fifteen megabytes per site, the number was actually much more variant and changed through different amounts over its lifetime. This is an attempt to find citations of the size from various sources; it is clear from the various points of reference that different people got different deals through GeoCities over the years, especially with regard to paid versus free hosting. <br />
<br />
This small size explains the usual look and feel of GeoCities accounts, as users were naturally restricted in what items they could have on their pages, and would lean towards simple graphics or utilizing hotlinsk to build their look.<br />
<br />
* 1997: 2mb Limit for GeoCities. [http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1997/02/msg00135.html]<br />
* April 29, 1997: GeoCities welcomes its 500,000th "Homesteader" and increases the limit to 11mb. [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-19356230.html]<br />
* 1998: 15mb limit for small business service [http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/1998/03/11031]<br />
* 1999: GeoCities has 12 terabytes of storage. [http://www.detritus.org/mike/gc/]<br />
* 2001: 15mb for GeoCities, 25mb for $8.95 a month [http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001/10/29/free-web-pages.htm]<br />
* 2002: 15mb Limit for GeoCities.<br />
* 2002: 25mb for the newly introduced "GeoCities Plus"<br />
* 2003: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of June)<br />
* 2005: 75mb for GeoCities Plus (As of January)<br />
* 2005: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of April)<br />
<br />
Yahoo's Site Explorer showed 23M html pages in Yahoo's index as of April 29th, 2009.<br />
<br />
=== Tips n' Tricks ===<br />
<br />
* Although simple directory listings aren't accessible for users' accounts, you might be able to obtain Apache-style directory listing for their subdirectories. For example, by stripping off the page filename for [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html], we can obtain an index for the subdirectory [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/ http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/]; the benefit of this is that there may exist files which are not linked internally or externally, so crawlers are not made aware of them. Unfortunately, it seems many users do not organize their content into subdirectories, instead preferring to dump all files directly into the user directory. Also, they may have been good webmasters and provided a directory index which overrides directory listings.<br />
<br />
=== Lists ===<br />
<br />
* [[GeoCities_URL_Lists|URL Lists]]<br />
* [[GeoCities_Neighborhood_Lists|Neighborhood Lists]] [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html]<br />
* [[GeoCities_Other|Other]]<br />
<br />
=== Users involved ===<br />
<br />
* [[User:Jscott]], Joey paulprote and many others are downloading the main www.geocities.com stuff.<br />
* [[User:Soult]] downloaded parts of ''de.geocities.com'', which is available as tar archive [http://prodtahoe4.allmydata.com:8133/uri/URI%3ADIR2-RO%3Afrfytm6vfyv7gkfi3jirkdyxc4%3Ajksfales55nsawm3hxdfl2fc2gnhzcaqtikmv4qwukpcfhciyuvq/ here] (download takes 1-2 minutes to start before the first packets arrive, be patient)<br />
* [[User:Bbot]] is mirroring downloaded content.<br />
* [[User:Scumola]] is crawling GeoCities using the archive.org crawler but on hold in June due to Comcast's 250GB bandwidth limit. Will resume in July.<br />
* [http://asheesh.org Asheesh Laroia] ([[User:Paulproteus]]) helped test User-Agent tricks to download from GeoCities, and purchased geociti.es.<br />
* [[User:Gouki]], is downloading br.geocities.com.<br />
* [[User:Jourdy288]] is going to try to save [http://www.geocities.com/timesSquare/Arena/8775/index.html Sega Master System Land].<br />
<br />
[[Image:Uf009617.gif|center]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Geocities_URL_Lists&diff=1294Geocities URL Lists2009-12-06T12:19:09Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities URL Lists to GeoCities URL Lists:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[GeoCities URL Lists]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities_URL_Lists&diff=1293GeoCities URL Lists2009-12-06T12:19:09Z<p>Jimhabegger: moved Geocities URL Lists to GeoCities URL Lists:&#32;Capital "C" in "GeoCities"</p>
<hr />
<div>* swebb's current url list: http://badcheese.com/~steve/ALL-GEO-SEEDS-20090730.txt.bz2 (259M) Same url list that archive.org is using<br />
* sods list : [http://blog.odonnell.nu/static/sites.tar.bz2] - over 700,000 unique GeoCities sites (not pages), I don't have the ability to download them, hopefully some of the downloaders can make use of this.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities_URL_Lists&diff=1290GeoCities URL Lists2009-12-05T04:08:15Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in Geocities</p>
<hr />
<div>* swebb's current url list: http://badcheese.com/~steve/ALL-GEO-SEEDS-20090730.txt.bz2 (259M) Same url list that archive.org is using<br />
* sods list : [http://blog.odonnell.nu/static/sites.tar.bz2] - over 700,000 unique GeoCities sites (not pages), I don't have the ability to download them, hopefully some of the downloaders can make use of this.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities_Project&diff=1285GeoCities Project2009-12-03T03:17:19Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in "Geocities"; minor typos</p>
<hr />
<div>__NOTOC__<br />
Upon the news of the closing of GeoCities by Yahoo, Archive Team initiated the '''GeoCities Project''', a coordinated effort to rescue as much of GeoCities' data off of the to-be-decomissioned GeoCities servers. This project was begun in April of 2009, and continued throughout the summer of 2009 up to the closing date of October 26, 2009 by Yahoo. A list of Frequently Asked Questions about this project was generated and is available [[Geocities_FAQ|Here]].<br />
<br />
Parallel to our efforts (and in conjunction with them) archive.org began a major "deep crawl" of GeoCities to add to their wayback machine. The page for their project is [http://www.archive.org/web/geocities.php here]. Please note that Archive Team and archive.org are 100% separate entities, with different approaches to the project of saving data and history.<br />
<br />
''It can not be stressed enough how many people were involved with this project - some preferred to be behind the scenes, while Jason Scott continued his habit of being a complete media hog, getting a lot of the interviews and face time with people asking what was up. But there were dozens of people involved, and they supplied weeks of time and effort to find efficient ways to download all of this data before it was removed.''<br />
<br />
== Technical Details About GeoCities ==<br />
<br />
These are now-defunct facts about GeoCities, culled from various sources, intended to provide some technical context for the arrangement of GeoCities that were discovered during the harvesting phase of data. <br />
<br />
=== GeoCities Neighborhoods ===<br />
<br />
Before the acquisition by Yahoo, GeoCities used an unusual organization method for its userbase: Neighborhoods. Separating the subject matter of the pages by taste, neighborhoods with names like Area51 (Science Fiction and Fantasy), Nashville (Country Music), Augusta (Golf) and others allowed for an easier time of finding subject matter the browser was searching for. ''It helps to give context that search engines as the modern world knows them did not exist in such force.'' <br />
<br />
A neighborhood would have up to 9,999 accounts underneath them, with the numbers representing the user's "block". Over time, GeoCities added "Suburbs", which allowed an expansion past 9,999 users; these would have names like "Vault" and "Cavern" under the "Area51" neighborhood. A URL would then be available in the form of '''www.geocities.com/NEIGHBORHOOD/SUBURB/XXXX'''.<br />
<br />
[http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Geocities Homestead Neighborhoods and Suburbs], although having not been updated since 2007, gives an excellent overview of the GeoCities history of Neighborhood organization. <br />
<br />
=== The Various Names and Incarnations of GeoCities ===<br />
<br />
Originally called '''Beverly Hills Internet''', the company opened up free web hosting in 1995 after a beta period. [http://scout.wisc.edu/Projects/PastProjects/NH/95-07/95-07-10/0031.html] It renamed itself to '''Geopages''', and then '''GeoCities'''. After its acquisition by Yahoo, its name was changed to '''Yahoo GeoCities''', which is what it remained until its demise.<br />
<br />
=== The Size and Amount of GeoCities Accounts ===<br />
<br />
GeoCities would provide a limited amount of space for its users to build websites, although this amount grew over time. While the most famous is about fifteen megabytes per site, the number was actually much more variant and changed through different amounts over its lifetime. This is an attempt to find citations of the size from various sources; it is clear from the various points of reference that different people got different deals through GeoCities over the years, especially with regard to paid versus free hosting. <br />
<br />
This small size explains the usual look and feel of GeoCities accounts, as users were naturally restricted in what items they could have on their pages, and would lean towards simple graphics or utilizing hotlinsk to build their look.<br />
<br />
* 1997: 2mb Limit for GeoCities. [http://www.metla.fi/archive/forest/1997/02/msg00135.html]<br />
* April 29, 1997: GeoCities welcomes its 500,000th "Homesteader" and increases the limit to 11mb. [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-19356230.html]<br />
* 1998: 15mb limit for small business service [http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/1998/03/11031]<br />
* 1999: GeoCities has 12 terabytes of storage. [http://www.detritus.org/mike/gc/]<br />
* 2001: 15mb for GeoCities, 25mb for $8.95 a month [http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001/10/29/free-web-pages.htm]<br />
* 2002: 15mb Limit for GeoCities.<br />
* 2002: 25mb for the newly introduced "GeoCities Plus"<br />
* 2003: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of June)<br />
* 2005: 75mb for GeoCities Plus (As of January)<br />
* 2005: 25mb for GeoCities Plus (As of April)<br />
<br />
Yahoo's Site Explorer showed 23M html pages in Yahoo's index as of April 29th, 2009.<br />
<br />
=== Tips n' Tricks ===<br />
<br />
* Although simple directory listings aren't accessible user's accounts, you might be able to obtain Apache-style directory listing for their subdirectories. For example, by stripping off the page filename for [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/homebrew.html], we can obtain an index for the subdirectory [http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/ http://www.geocities.com/nenehs_world1/discography/]; the benefit of this is that there may exist files which are not linked internally or externally, so crawlers are not made aware of them. Unfortunately, it seems many users do not organize their content into subdirectories, instead preferring to dump all files directly into the user directory. Also, they may have been good webmasters and provided a directory index which overrides directory listings.<br />
<br />
=== Lists ===<br />
<br />
* [[Geocities_URL_Lists|URL Lists]]<br />
* [[Geocities_Neighborhood_Lists|Neighborhood Lists]] [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html]<br />
* [[Geocities_Other|Other]]<br />
<br />
=== Users involved ===<br />
<br />
* [[User:Jscott]], Joey paulprote and many others are downloading the main www.geocities.com stuff.<br />
* [[User:Soult]] downloaded parts of ''de.geocities.com'', which is available as tar archive [http://prodtahoe4.allmydata.com:8133/uri/URI%3ADIR2-RO%3Afrfytm6vfyv7gkfi3jirkdyxc4%3Ajksfales55nsawm3hxdfl2fc2gnhzcaqtikmv4qwukpcfhciyuvq/ here] (download takes 1-2 minutes to start before the first packets arrive, be patient)<br />
* [[User:Bbot]] is mirroring downloaded content.<br />
* [[User:Scumola]] is crawling GeoCities using the archive.org crawler but on hold in June due to Comcast's 250GB bandwidth limit. Will resume in July.<br />
* [http://asheesh.org Asheesh Laroia] ([[User:Paulproteus]]) helped test User-Agent tricks to download from GeoCities, and purchased geociti.es.<br />
* [[User:Gouki]], is downloading br.geocities.com.<br />
* [[User:Jourdy288]] is going to try to save [http://www.geocities.com/timesSquare/Arena/8775/index.html Sega Master System Land].<br />
<br />
[[Image:Uf009617.gif|center]]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities&diff=1284GeoCities2009-12-02T22:40:50Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in Geocities</p>
<hr />
<div>__NOTOC__<br />
[[Image:Geocities.gif|left]] '''GeoCities''' was a once very popular web hosting service founded in 1994 and purchased by [[Yahoo]] in 1999. Marked by its once-generous allotment of 15 megabytes and the free (with added advertisements) price, it was at one point the 3rd most-browsed site on the World Wide Web.<br />
<br />
Because the site was free and marketed primarily to first-time or relatively new internet users, the quality of websites on GeoCities became a persistent, oft-referred joke - the amateurish layout, use of animated gifs, and prone-to-personal websites dominated the standard GeoCities pages, and were often abandoned by their owners for good soon after finding better approaches to telling their stories or showing off their data.<br />
<br />
In April 2009, [http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html Yahoo announced they would be closing GeoCities "later this year"]. In July of 2009, Yahoo announced the firm date of ''October 26, 2009'' for the closing of GeoCities, and offered a number of hosting plans (for pay) to transfer data from GeoCities to these new locations.<br />
<br />
While the natural urge by some would be to let GeoCities sink into obscurity and death, leaving nothing in its wake but bad memories and shudders of recognition at endless "under construction" GIFs, the fact remains that GeoCities was for millions of people the first experience dealing with the low-cost, full-color, world-accessible website and all the possibilities this contained. To not at least have the option of browsing these old sites would be a loss of the very history of the web from the side of the people who came to know it, not the designers who descended upon it. For that reason, Archive Team thinks GeoCities is worth saving.<br />
<br />
== The [[Geocities_Project|Geocities Project]] and Friends ==<br />
<br />
Upon the announcement of the closing of GeoCities, an attempt was made to rescue as much data from GeoCities' destruction as possible. The page with details about the project is [[Geocities_Project|here]]. The project's harvesting phase was from April-October 2009, and involved several dozen people and hundreds of machine instances. To various degrees of quality, a very large amount of GeoCities information was mirrored.<br />
<br />
There have been other parallel projects also mirroring GeoCities besides Archive Team. These include [http://www.archive.org Archive.Org], [http://www.reocities.com Reocities], [http://www.geocities.ws geocities.ws], and [http://www.internetarchaeology.org/ Internet Archaeology]. All groups appear to have gotten different amounts of the GeoCities collection, and most are now sharing data to track down gaps and share copies.<br />
<br />
== The Closure ==<br />
<br />
GeoCities closed in reality at around 12:30pm Pacific Standard Time on October 27, 2009. Attempts to reach most previous URLs either redirect to a page telling you GeoCities is closed, or bounce to a Yahoo search page and suggest you check Archive.Org's collection of saved GeoCities pages. Archive Team found some pages lingering days afterwards, likely a reflection of the size of GeoCities machinery and complexity of a decade of system administrations and hacks.<br />
<br />
== Under Construction ==<br />
<br />
To demonstrate some of the things being lost, Jason Scott created an exhibit called [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction This Page Is Under Construction], a collection of hundreds of "Under Construction" GIFs from the downloaded data of GeoCities. Nearly a quarter of a million people have been subjected to this display, but only a few thousand are brave enough to take on the sequel, [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail Please Mail Me].<br />
<br />
== Press Mentions of the GeoCities Closure and the GeoCities Archive Project ==<br />
<br />
=== Articles about GeoCities Closing ===<br />
<br />
* [http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Ars Technica]: Started in 1994, GeoCities was like the Facebook to Angelfire's MySpace—competing webpage services that '''allowed over-enthused HTML newbies to create artfully horrific webpages to represent themselves in the early days of the Internet'''.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2009/04/24/razing-yahoos-geocities.aspx fool.com]: As anyone who has surfed through GeoCities over the years will tell you, an '''Internet without GeoCities is like a world of celluloid without Keanu Reeves flicks'''. The absence of GeoCities won't create a cultural void. Few will miss its passing. It's loaded mostly with hobbyist tribute pages, authored by penny-pinching cybersurfers who put up with primitive tools and gaudy ads in exchange for free hosting. Many of the pages were created years ago, and abandoned like bunny rabbits after Easter Sunday, Ugg boots after winter, and anything Reeves did after the first Matrix movie.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ TechCrunch]: One of the pioneers of web-hosting sites, GeoCities gave users personal publishing tools and created “neighborhoods” within its web platform for users to be able to create pages, add a picture, text, a guest book and a website counter. '''Long before MySpace, GeoCities was known as a place where teenagers, college students, and eventually others could impose their own garish taste upon the rest of the world.'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html PC World]: Of the 12 remaining GeoCities users, only one was available for comment. "Holy crap!" said the user, a red-faced fellow named Strong Bad. "'''The scroll buttons and animated GIFs on that site were unbeatable.'''"<br />
<br />
* [http://thehoot.net/articles/6813 The Brandeis Hoot]: Geocities: the end of an Internet era, by Alex Schneider<br />
<br />
=== Articles and Mentions of Archive Team's GeoCities Project ===<br />
<br />
* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/28/geocities_preservation/ The Register]: A group of web preservationists called the Archive Team is trying to save most of Geocities for the ages before Yahoo! erases the beloved old-school web-hosting service from the face of the internet.<br />
<br />
* [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 Slashdot]: jamie found this note from Jason Scott, who organizes the Archive Team. They are busy downloading as much of Geocities as they can before it vanishes from the Net after Yahoo pulled the plug.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8fn2u/bring_bandwidth_and_disks_help_me_save_geocities/ reddit.com]<br />
<br />
* Jason Scott appeared on the April 29, 2009 edition of [http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2009/04/rescuing-geocit.html Future Tense] to discuss why GeoCities should be rescued.<br />
<br />
* [http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2009/10/26/geocities-archive-tributes/ The Coffee Desk]<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=15228 We Built These Cities] by Brianna Snyder, Fairfield Weekly, week of October 29, 2009.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.osnews.com/story/22400/GeoCities_Decommissioning_Unleashes_Torrent_of_Nostalgia GeoCities Decommissioning Unleashes Torrent of Nostalgia] by David Adams on October 27, 2009.<br />
<br />
== Help Wanted ==<br />
<br />
I'm looking for people to help with some GeoCities heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities/FAQ&diff=1283GeoCities/FAQ2009-12-02T22:31:57Z<p>Jimhabegger: Capital "C" in Geocities</p>
<hr />
<div>__NOTOC__<br />
=== THE GEOCITIES GRAB FAQ ===<br />
<br />
This FAQ has been written because an awful lot of people got wind of the newest project on the Archive Team plate, which is to attempt to mirror as much of the doomed website GeoCities as quickly as possible. Press coverage means that a lot of people are coming around and asking how they can help or what is up. This is a current listing of Jason's general answers to these questions. You can write to him at jason@textfiles.com, post to his page on this site, or go to EFNet and join channel #archiveteam.<br />
<br />
These questions will likely change, as will the answers.<br />
<br />
== GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT ==<br />
<br />
'''What are you trying to do?'''<br />
<br />
Simply put, we're trying to capture a copy of the family of websites known as "GeoCities" before its parent company, Yahoo!, takes the site down completely. <br />
<br />
'''Why are you doing this?'''<br />
<br />
We happen to believe that GeoCities represents a rather important point in the growth of the world wide web (and Internet in general): Many thousands of people came online and were given the ability to create their own web pages, to be seen by a potential worldwide audience, and set out to do just that. Some sites were terrible, and some were brilliant, but they all are of their time - some of these sites have been maintained to the present day but thousands were left alone for the last decade and represent a time capsule of the mid 1990s Internet. Deleting these pages, some of which were curated by people no longer with us, or by people who have completely forgotten the work they did, seems a shame.<br />
<br />
'''When does Yahoo! plan to take down GeoCities?'''<br />
<br />
Currently, the main GeoCities site claims it will go down later in the summer, but gives no firm dates as to what that means. Jason Scott's opinion is that Yahoo will take down GeoCities to coincide with quarterly financial reports/earnings, meaning before June 30th. Traditionally, this is when most companies vainly attempt to show "progress" or "measures", and cutting off GeoCities would be a prime example. This is, however, just a guess - in the case of Yahoo! Pets, the site was taken down with absolutely no warning, and Yahoo! Briefcase, a site that is the dictionary definition of "tiny", was taken down with 30 days of semi-warning after ten full years of being up. So let's assume it will be sooner rather than later.<br />
<br />
'''Are you Archive.org?'''<br />
<br />
No, we're not.<br />
<br />
'''Archive.org has the wayback machine - your job is done!'''<br />
<br />
No, not true. The Wayback Machine (also known as the Internet Archive by some) is a wonderful, great tool and a historical marvel and precious resource, but it does not crawl every single last page in a website. Many sites on GeoCities are not on the Wayback machine (although many are) and so our work is only slightly redundant, and ideally will be easier to analyze and provide.<br />
<br />
'''How about Google Cache - your job is done!'''<br />
<br />
The Google Cache, contrary to some opinion, is not a long-term storage solution. Google removes caches anywhere from a few weeks to a few months after the site disappears - once GeoCities is down, the cache will go away. Understandably, there's always the chance that somewhere deep in the bowels of Google are copies of GeoCities, but we're not going to bank on that.<br />
<br />
'''Where will the mirrored websites be accessible?'''<br />
<br />
It is allready partly accessible under http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://put/your/url/here. Possibly some websites are not visible there yet, since archive.org is waiting 6 months before making the mirrored data available.<br />
<br />
Data fetched independently by AT will be probably mirrored under http://geociti.es. However the scheme of the mirrored URLs below http://geociti.es is being decided upon at this moment (26. Oct 2009).<br />
<br />
== TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT ==<br />
<br />
'''How big a site are we talking about here?'''<br />
<br />
Nobody connected with Archive Team has any hard data. Yahoo's Site Explorer claims 23 million pages, and based on downloads we're inclined to say something in the range of 10 Terabytes, but we could be wildly off in any direction. The problem is increased because you can't simply go to a GeoCities site and get everything in the account - some people would have stuff unlinked from anywhere else, and we're not going to find it under any of our methodologies. So in terms of front-end access, we're just going to download until we run out of stuff to download, and then we'll be able to tell you where we are.<br />
<br />
As of April 29th, we had something in the range of 350 gigabytes of GeoCities sites, well into the mid six-figures.<br />
<br />
'''How are you acquiring this data?'''<br />
<br />
The short form is that about 12-24 people are using GNU Wget against the site to within an inch of its life. Wget is a very resilient utility and is very flexible in capturing data and maintaining it in a good form, and then analyzing it to find more connections.<br />
<br />
'''Where are you keeping this data?'''<br />
<br />
People who have the minimum amount of disk space needed (less than a terabyte at the moment, but soon to be two terabytes) are rsync'ing between each other as they go.<br />
<br />
== HOW YOU CAN HELP ==<br />
<br />
Right now, things are generally under control, but you should feel free to come visit '''#archiveteam''' on the EFNet IRC network to come chat (it does get loud in there), or join this wiki.<br />
<br />
Jason is accepting donations to buy hard drives; his paypal is jason@textfiles.com. This is ''not'' a tax-deductable donation - you're basically just giving him money, which he uses to buy drives. So don't do it if you don't like that.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1281User:Jimhabegger2009-12-02T10:01:14Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at GeoCities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the GeoCities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at GeoCities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including GeoCities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the GeoCities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see (Help wanted) ==<br />
<br />
Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the GeoCities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to GeoCities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the GeoCities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at GeoCities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at GeoCities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of GeoCities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about GeoCities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize GeoCities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to GeoCities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her GeoCities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to GeoCities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to GeoCities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to GeoCities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to GeoCities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of GeoCities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]<br />
<br />
== Not gone! ==<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/soho/1469/flw.html All-Wright Site]<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/stonehedgefarms/ Jennifer's Stonehedge Farms]<br />
<br />
Oops! I forgot about GeoCities Plus.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1280User:Jimhabegger2009-12-02T09:46:16Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Not gone! */</p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see (Help wanted) ==<br />
<br />
Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize Geocities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of Geocities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]<br />
<br />
== Not gone! ==<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/soho/1469/flw.html All-Wright Site]<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/stonehedgefarms/ Jennifer's Stonehedge Farms]<br />
<br />
Oops! I forgot about GeoCities Plus.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1279Talk:GeoCities2009-12-02T09:35:25Z<p>Jimhabegger: Undo revision 1276 by Jimhabegger (Talk)</p>
<hr />
<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
<br />
So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
<br />
[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
<br />
[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
<br />
[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
<br />
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
<br />
"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
<br />
[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
<br />
[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Help wanted ==<br />
<br />
Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
<br />
- Reunions of homesteaders and community leaders.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1278Talk:GeoCities2009-12-02T09:34:36Z<p>Jimhabegger: Undo revision 1277 by Jimhabegger (Talk)</p>
<hr />
<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
<br />
So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
<br />
[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
<br />
[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
<br />
[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
<br />
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
<br />
"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
<br />
[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
<br />
[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Help wanted ==<br />
<br />
Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
<br />
- Reunions of homesteaders and community leaders.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Not gone! ==<br />
<br />
I just found two Homesteads that are still alive. See my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 07:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1277Talk:GeoCities2009-12-02T09:33:44Z<p>Jimhabegger: removed comment about surviving pages - see my user page</p>
<hr />
<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
<br />
So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
<br />
[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
<br />
[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
<br />
[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
<br />
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
<br />
"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
<br />
[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
<br />
[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Help wanted ==<br />
<br />
Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
<br />
- Reunions of homesteaders and community leaders.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1276Talk:GeoCities2009-12-02T07:57:14Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
<br />
So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
<br />
[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
<br />
[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
<br />
[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
<br />
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
<br />
"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
<br />
[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
<br />
[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Help wanted ==<br />
<br />
Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
<br />
- Reunions of homesteaders and community leaders.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Not gone! ==<br />
<br />
I just found two Homesteads that are still alive. See my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 07:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1275User:Jimhabegger2009-12-02T07:51:49Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Not gone! */</p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see (Help wanted) ==<br />
<br />
Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize Geocities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of Geocities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]<br />
<br />
== Not gone! ==<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/soho/1469/flw.html All-Wright Site]<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/stonehedgefarms/ Jennifer's Stonehedge Farms]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1274User:Jimhabegger2009-12-02T07:51:09Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see (Help wanted) ==<br />
<br />
Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize Geocities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of Geocities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]<br />
<br />
== Not gone! ==<br />
<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/soho/1469/flw.html All-Wright Site]<br />
[http://www.geocities.com/stonehedgefarms/ Jennifer's Stonehedge Farms]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1273User:Jimhabegger2009-12-01T22:33:00Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Some things I'd like to see */</p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see (Help wanted) ==<br />
<br />
Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize Geocities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of Geocities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Who_We_Are&diff=1272Who We Are2009-12-01T21:43:06Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Geocities heritage projects: help wanted */ added link to Geocities page</p>
<hr />
<div>This project is composed of volunteers, currently coordinated by [[User:Jscott|Jason Scott]].<br />
<br />
If you're wondering where to stick your nose in, we could use:<br />
<br />
* '''Writers''', who can create clear essays and instructions for archivists and concerned parties.<br />
* '''People with Lots of Hosted Disk Space''' who have a proper hosted webserver and fat pipe, who are willing (when asked) to consider hosting mirrored dead sites or archives.<br />
* '''People who love setting up torrents''' who can do the same as the mirror folks, but do so hosting torrents.<br />
* '''OCD-rich individuals who want to download things''' who will respond to our alerts and call outs and download entire sites or diagnose ways to get at obfuscated data.<br />
<br />
Mirror and torrent people should write [[User:Jscott|Jason]] at jason@textfiles.com. Press people looking for an easy, quote-filled interview about this important subject can contact Jason as well.<br />
<br />
== Geocities heritage projects: help wanted ==<br />
<br />
I'm looking for people to help with some [[Geocities]] heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=GeoCities&diff=1271GeoCities2009-12-01T14:57:26Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>__NOTOC__<br />
[[Image:Geocities.gif|left]] '''Geocities''' was a once very popular web hosting service founded in 1994 and purchased by [[Yahoo]] in 1999. Marked by its once-generous allotment of 15 megabytes and the free (with added advertisements) price, it was at one point the 3rd most-browsed site on the World Wide Web.<br />
<br />
Because the site was free and marketed primarily to first-time or relatively new internet users, the quality of websites on Geocities became a persistent, oft-referred joke - the amateurish layout, use of animated gifs, and prone-to-personal websites dominated the standard Geocities pages, and were often abandoned by their owners for good soon after finding better approaches to telling their stories or showing off their data.<br />
<br />
In April 2009, [http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html Yahoo announced they would be closing Geocities "later this year"]. In July of 2009, Yahoo announced the firm date of ''October 26, 2009'' for the closing of Geocities, and offered a number of hosting plans (for pay) to transfer data from Geocities to these new locations.<br />
<br />
While the natural urge by some would be to let Geocities sink into obscurity and death, leaving nothing in its wake but bad memories and shudders of recognition at endless "under construction" GIFs, the fact remains that Geocities was for millions of people the first experience dealing with the low-cost, full-color, world-accessible website and all the possibilities this contained. To not at least have the option of browsing these old sites would be a loss of the very history of the web from the side of the people who came to know it, not the designers who descended upon it. For that reason, Archive Team thinks Geocities is worth saving.<br />
<br />
== The [[Geocities_Project|Geocities Project]] and Friends ==<br />
<br />
Upon the announcement of the closing of Geocities, an attempt was made to rescue as much data from Geocities' destruction as possible. The page with details about the project is [[Geocities_Project|here]]. The project's harvesting phase was from April-October 2009, and involved several dozen people and hundreds of machine instances. To various degrees of quality, a very large amount of Geocities information was mirrored.<br />
<br />
There have been other parallel projects also mirroring Geocities besides Archive Team. These include [http://www.archive.org Archive.Org], [http://www.reocities.com Reocities], [http://www.geocities.ws geocities.ws], and [http://www.internetarchaeology.org/ Internet Archaeology]. All groups appear to have gotten different amounts of the Geocities collection, and most are now sharing data to track down gaps and share copies.<br />
<br />
== The Closure ==<br />
<br />
Geocities closed in reality at around 12:30pm Pacific Standard Time on October 27, 2009. Attempts to reach most previous URLs either redirect to a page telling you Geocities is closed, or bounce to a Yahoo search page and suggest you check Archive.Org's collection of saved Geocities pages. Archive Team found some pages lingering days afterwards, likely a reflection of the size of Geocities machinery and complexity of a decade of system administrations and hacks.<br />
<br />
== Under Construction ==<br />
<br />
To demonstrate some of the things being lost, Jason Scott created an exhibit called [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction This Page Is Under Construction], a collection of hundreds of "Under Construction" GIFs from the downloaded data of Geocities. Nearly a quarter of a million people have been subjected to this display, but only a few thousand are brave enough to take on the sequel, [http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail Please Mail Me].<br />
<br />
== Press Mentions of the Geocities Closure and the Geocities Archive Project ==<br />
<br />
=== Articles about Geocities Closing ===<br />
<br />
* [http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Ars Technica]: Started in 1994, Geocities was like the Facebook to Angelfire's MySpace—competing webpage services that '''allowed over-enthused HTML newbies to create artfully horrific webpages to represent themselves in the early days of the Internet'''.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2009/04/24/razing-yahoos-geocities.aspx fool.com]: As anyone who has surfed through GeoCities over the years will tell you, an '''Internet without GeoCities is like a world of celluloid without Keanu Reeves flicks'''. The absence of GeoCities won't create a cultural void. Few will miss its passing. It's loaded mostly with hobbyist tribute pages, authored by penny-pinching cybersurfers who put up with primitive tools and gaudy ads in exchange for free hosting. Many of the pages were created years ago, and abandoned like bunny rabbits after Easter Sunday, Ugg boots after winter, and anything Reeves did after the first Matrix movie.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ TechCrunch]: One of the pioneers of web-hosting sites, GeoCities gave users personal publishing tools and created “neighborhoods” within its web platform for users to be able to create pages, add a picture, text, a guest book and a website counter. '''Long before MySpace, Geocities was known as a place where teenagers, college students, and eventually others could impose their own garish taste upon the rest of the world.'''<br />
<br />
* [http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html PC World]: Of the 12 remaining GeoCities users, only one was available for comment. "Holy crap!" said the user, a red-faced fellow named Strong Bad. "'''The scroll buttons and animated GIFs on that site were unbeatable.'''"<br />
<br />
* [http://thehoot.net/articles/6813 The Brandeis Hoot]: Geocities: the end of an Internet era, by Alex Schneider<br />
<br />
=== Articles and Mentions of Archive Team's Geocities Project ===<br />
<br />
* [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/28/geocities_preservation/ The Register]: A group of web preservationists called the Archive Team is trying to save most of Geocities for the ages before Yahoo! erases the beloved old-school web-hosting service from the face of the internet.<br />
<br />
* [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/27/2252227 Slashdot]: jamie found this note from Jason Scott, who organizes the Archive Team. They are busy downloading as much of Geocities as they can before it vanishes from the Net after Yahoo pulled the plug.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/8fn2u/bring_bandwidth_and_disks_help_me_save_geocities/ reddit.com]<br />
<br />
* Jason Scott appeared on the April 29, 2009 edition of [http://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2009/04/rescuing-geocit.html Future Tense] to discuss why Geocities should be rescued.<br />
<br />
* [http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2009/10/26/geocities-archive-tributes/ The Coffee Desk]<br />
<br />
* [http://www.fairfieldweekly.com/article.cfm?aid=15228 We Built These Cities] by Brianna Snyder, Fairfield Weekly, week of October 29, 2009.<br />
<br />
* [http://www.osnews.com/story/22400/GeoCities_Decommissioning_Unleashes_Torrent_of_Nostalgia GeoCities Decommissioning Unleashes Torrent of Nostalgia] by David Adams on October 27, 2009.<br />
<br />
== Help Wanted ==<br />
<br />
I'm looking for people to help with some Geocities heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Who_We_Are&diff=1270Who We Are2009-12-01T14:52:19Z<p>Jimhabegger: Added help wanted for Geocities heritage projects</p>
<hr />
<div>This project is composed of volunteers, currently coordinated by [[User:Jscott|Jason Scott]].<br />
<br />
If you're wondering where to stick your nose in, we could use:<br />
<br />
* '''Writers''', who can create clear essays and instructions for archivists and concerned parties.<br />
* '''People with Lots of Hosted Disk Space''' who have a proper hosted webserver and fat pipe, who are willing (when asked) to consider hosting mirrored dead sites or archives.<br />
* '''People who love setting up torrents''' who can do the same as the mirror folks, but do so hosting torrents.<br />
* '''OCD-rich individuals who want to download things''' who will respond to our alerts and call outs and download entire sites or diagnose ways to get at obfuscated data.<br />
<br />
Mirror and torrent people should write [[User:Jscott|Jason]] at jason@textfiles.com. Press people looking for an easy, quote-filled interview about this important subject can contact Jason as well.<br />
<br />
== Geocities heritage projects: help wanted ==<br />
<br />
I'm looking for people to help with some Geocities heritage projects. Anyone who might be interested, please see my user page. --[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 14:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1269User:Jimhabegger2009-12-01T14:46:28Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Some things I'd like to see */</p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see ==<br />
<br />
Anyone who would like to help with any of these projects, please email me at geotalk@yahoo.com.<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
- Finding widely read bloggers to help publicize Geocities heritage projects and help needed.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of Geocities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1268User:Jimhabegger2009-11-29T22:34:45Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see ==<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.<br />
<br />
== The watermark ==<br />
<br />
I see the watermark as a significant landmark in the history of Geocities.<br />
[http://www.reocities.com/PicketFence/1284/ Altericon's version]</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1267User:Jimhabegger2009-11-29T01:18:05Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>== About Jim ==<br />
<br />
I was born in Indiana and I've also lived in Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Martinique and China. My wife and I are now living with our son's family in Shanghai. Our daughter's family is in Quebec. My wife is teaching in a nursery school and I'm checking the English on some environmental research papers.<br />
<br />
Most of my time on the Internet has been trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. I started at Geocities, then later I participated in some forums and groups related to my interests in God-centered living, improving myself to help improve the world, immersing myself in other cultures, and walking and working with abused and marginalized people. In every discussion I was trying to practice and promote my ideas for community service and development. Now I'd like to spend more time reading blogs, trying to learn how to encourage and support people in the good that I see them doing.<br />
<br />
Offline, I've worked in precision mold design and manufacturing, computer programming, landscaping, economic and social research, environmental research, and youth outreach.<br />
<br />
I've spent a lot of time, off and on, trying to use free software systems, including GNU/Linux, BSD and Plan9.<br />
<br />
== My interest in the Geocities heritage ==<br />
<br />
My online community life, my Web pages and my blogging started at Geocities. I had five accounts there. I backed them up and started looking for somewhere else to put them some day, if I ever want to. That was the end of it for me for a while. Then a few weeks ago I had one of my periodic attacks of missing people and places of long ago, including Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders. I found out about the archive projects while I was investigating possible ways for the Geocities heritage to live on.<br />
<br />
== Some things I'd like to see ==<br />
<br />
There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.<br />
<br />
== Archiving Web pages that link to Geocities homesteads ==<br />
<br />
I've downloaded a few Weg pages that link to Geocities homesteads. With my current method I can download about four per minute. My searches for two suburbs have turned up about four hundred pages for each one. I haven't done the math, but it looks like there might be several hundred suburbs. Maybe a thousand hours or more. With the one or two hours per week I can spend on it, that would take five hundred weeks at least, ten years. Meanwhile those links might be disappearing fast. I need maybe fifty people to help, or a way of doing it that's fifty times as fast, or some combination of the two.<br />
<br />
That's the most urgent part. After that those pages will need to be studied, and followed wherever they lead, to get information about lost homesteads and about the homesteaders, for various heritage projects.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1266User:Jimhabegger2009-11-28T07:54:51Z<p>Jimhabegger: add some info</p>
<hr />
<div>There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.<br />
<br />
I'll try to provide examples of those ideas. I've downloaded a few pages that link to Geocities pages, and tracked down one former homesteader. I Googled "EnchantedForest/Tower/" to find pages that link to homesteads in that suburb. I followed some leads I found there to learn more about what was on one of the homesteader's pages, and what she's doing now. I emailed her to find out if she still has a backup of her Geocities pages, or if she has similar pages somewhere else, or if she would agree to be included on some Web pages about where former homesteaders are now.<br />
<br />
If anyone can help me automate finding and downloading pages that link to Geocities homesteads, please let me know.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the word out for people to back up their pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before they remove or update the links?<br />
<br />
I'm also planning to write to some community leaders to ask them to help with all this.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimhabegger&diff=1265User talk:Jimhabegger2009-11-28T07:40:12Z<p>Jimhabegger: remove info that was tranferred to the page tab</p>
<hr />
<div></div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1264Talk:GeoCities2009-11-28T06:42:31Z<p>Jimhabegger: /* Help wanted */ added a line</p>
<hr />
<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
<br />
So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
<br />
[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
<br />
[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
<br />
[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
<br />
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
<br />
"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
<br />
[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
<br />
[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Help wanted ==<br />
<br />
Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
<br />
- Reunions of homesteaders and community leaders.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1263User:Jimhabegger2009-11-28T06:40:38Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>There are some things I'd like to see happen for the Geocities heritage that I won't be able to do myself, but I can help.<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help.<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
<br />
- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
<br />
- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
<br />
- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs.<br />
<br />
- Homesteader and community leader reunions.</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:GeoCities&diff=1262Talk:GeoCities2009-11-27T23:49:39Z<p>Jimhabegger: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Articles about Geocities closing ==<br />
<br />
So I kind of tried to collect some pages, but:<br />
<br />
[http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/04/geocities-to-close-after-15-years-of-aesthetic-awesomeness.ars Geocities to close after 15 years of aesthetic "awesomeness"] - Ars Technica<br />
<br />
[http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/ Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities] - TechCrunch<br />
<br />
[http://www.pcworld.com/article/163765/so_long_geocities_we_forgot_you_still_existed.html So Long, GeoCities: We Forgot You Still Existed] - PCWorld<br />
<br />
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8016211.stm Yahoo pulls the plug on GeoCities] - BBC News<br />
<br />
"It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." [http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/23/2339224 Yahoo Pulls the Plug on GeoCities] - Slashdot<br />
<br />
[http://mashable.com/2009/04/23/geocities-shutdown/ GeoCities to Shutdown; What Was GeoCities, You Ask?] - Mashable<br />
<br />
[[User:Grawity|grawity]] 17:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Help wanted ==<br />
<br />
Can we add something on this page about help wanted? Here's my list:<br />
<br />
- Archiving pages that link to Geocities homesteads, before those disappear too. They might have information about homesteads that were not saved by any archiving projects.<br />
<br />
- Asking former community leaders for help<br />
<br />
- Web pages about the Geocities heritage, explaining its historical and cultural significance and what it means to some people.<br />
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- Web pages with stories from community leaders and other homesteaders about their life at Geocities, and where they are now.<br />
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- Some kind of reconstruction or representation of the flavor, character and spirit of life at Geocities in the time of the neighborhoods and community leaders.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of the archives.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of surviving fragments of Geocities homesteads, friendships, neighborhoods and community life.<br />
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- Indexes and directories of information about Geocities. One example is [http://www.bladesplace.id.au/geocities-neighborhoods-suburbs.html Blade's list of the neighborhoods and suburbs].<br />
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--[[User:Jimhabegger|Jimhabegger]] 23:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)</div>Jimhabeggerhttps://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:Jimhabegger&diff=1261User:Jimhabegger2009-11-27T13:22:07Z<p>Jimhabegger: Created page with 'I'd like to see someone archive pages that link to Geocities pages. The information on them might be useful for reconstruction purposes in case there are pages that weren't saved…'</p>
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<div>I'd like to see someone archive pages that link to Geocities pages. The information on them might be useful for reconstruction purposes in case there are pages that weren't saved by any of the archiving projects. I've started downloading a few to illustrate my idea.</div>Jimhabegger